whens new patch due

[Rather peeved]

Originally Posted by Dano

Minimum of two weeks = anytime from saturday just gone, he never gave an upper limit. No confusion or uncertainty about it, it'll be ready when it's... do I really need to finish that?

You have to admit it's all pretty vauge. if i told my boss I'd have something ready in about two weeks - kinda sorta - then didn't, i'd get the sack.

i'm sorry for my negative attitude. i hope and think they probably will come through eventually. but i'm still struggling to trust these guys given the deliberate deception surrounding the orginal launch.

it's a long road back.

[Chivas]

Originally Posted by Rather peeved

You have to admit it's all pretty vauge. if i told my boss I'd have something ready in about two weeks - kinda sorta - then didn't, i'd get the sack.

i'm sorry for my negative attitude. i hope and think they probably will come through eventually. but i'm still struggling to trust these guys given the deliberate deception surrounding the orginal launch.

it's a long road back.

Its impossible to give an exact date for a patch release unless you do it the day it works. Fix one thing create a bug in another. Atleast the patch annoucement lets people know they are still working on the sim.

[Vengeanze]

Originally Posted by Rather peeved

You have to admit it's all pretty vauge. if i told my boss I'd have something ready in about two weeks - kinda sorta - then didn't, i'd get the sack.

If you gonna write a report then your argument is valid but not for bugfixing.
"My car is broken, how long will it take to fix it?"
When troubleshooting all you can specify is the amount of effort. "We are all working full-time to solve the problem. It has the highest priority"

Patch is due anytime from today till the "time it takes to recode the hole game + the time it took to come to that conclusion".

We already seen what happens when "the boss" (Ubi) demands a date from the coder (1C) - we got an Alpha.

[Skoshi Tiger]

Originally Posted by Vengeanze

If you gonna write a report then your argument is valid but not for bugfixing.
"My car is broken, how long will it take to fix it?"
When troubleshooting all you can specify is the amount of effort. "We are all working full-time to solve the problem. It has the highest priority"

Patch is due anytime from today till the "time it takes to recode the hole game + the time it took to come to that conclusion".

We already seen what happens when "the boss" (Ubi) demands a date from the coder (1C) - we got an Alpha.

+1

When your car breaks down, hopefully the mechanic is farmiliar with the make and model of the vehicle, they have ready access to the required replacement parts and that they have done a similar repair in the past and from that experience they can estimate a time frame.

The difference with software patching is that the developers need to re-engineer each of the replacement parts, sometimes from scratch. There are no off the self fixes.

Cheers!

[Dano]

Originally Posted by Rather peeved

You have to admit it's all pretty vauge. if i told my boss I'd have something ready in about two weeks - kinda sorta - then didn't, i'd get the sack.

i'm sorry for my negative attitude. i hope and think they probably will come through eventually. but i'm still struggling to trust these guys given the deliberate deception surrounding the orginal launch.

it's a long road back.

It's not at all vague, two weeks minimum end of.

If you told your boss you'd have something ready in two weeks kinda sorta then you've failed to understand what two weeks minimum means.

[Fjordmonkey]

Originally Posted by Rather peeved

You have to admit it's all pretty vauge. if i told my boss I'd have something ready in about two weeks - kinda sorta - then didn't, i'd get the sack.

i'm sorry for my negative attitude. i hope and think they probably will come through eventually. but i'm still struggling to trust these guys given the deliberate deception surrounding the orginal launch.

it's a long road back.

Somehow I think you A: don't work in the IT-field, and B: You don't work as a developer.

Might be wrong, though, but it's just a hunch I have.

Originally Posted by Fjordmonkey

Somehow I think you A: don't work in the IT-field, and B: You don't work as a developer.

Might be wrong, though, but it's just a hunch I have.

Ive asked this question myself, not about 'rather peeved's' post but about the actual devepment team of CLOD. To get it this bad after 6 years of development suggest a record high level of incompetence/severe lack of ability and product management.