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Old 08-23-2011, 07:06 AM
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SPAD 7 Pre-Order Now Available with discount.
http://riseofflight.com/Forum/viewtopic.php?t=23024

Not cheap though Price of only 5 such aircraft would equal the price of CloD. But it is worth it.

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Old 08-23-2011, 09:08 AM
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Thumbs up Rise of Flight...

... I got the "Iron Cross Edition", bought it at Amazon. Its much better than the download version if you like a nice manual, a big printed map of the Western Front and other printed stuff. Really nicely made!
I additionally bought the Fokker E-III, the Fokker D.VIIF and the Nieuport-17 (Fokker-EIII and Nieuport-17 you need if you want to start an early career on both sides). All my planes have the fieldmods. Especially the gunsights are very useful.


Now a word concerning the support for the development of flightsims in general. I like good combat-flightsims and that`s why I also had the whole IL2 series from the beginning and DCS-Blackshark but,...

I still feel screwed after buying Cliffs of Dover. If I had known in what state it is on release date, I would not have bought it !
Everybody who tells me I´m a whiner for expressing such feelings, I tell: "go f... yourself !!!"


If it is a dvd-player or a car or a TV or anything else, would you accept products that are in such bad shape when you buy them ?
Sure not, you would rise hell. But when it comes to games or flightsims especially, you have to be nice, thankful and accept that you are sold, unfinished crap ? No way!


So much for that,... I like "cleared frontlines" (if they are not already cleared).
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Old 08-23-2011, 11:51 AM
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Old 08-23-2011, 12:51 PM
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I'd feel screwed if I purchased RoF in 6 months or 1 year after release. Thus I purchased it 2 years after the release when it is good enough for me. Entirely my decision, my responsibility, no one to blame for bad feelings. We are all learning anyway.

CloD in its WIP stage was good enough for me immediately on release day. Entirely my decision, my responsibility, no one to blame for good feelings. To me sim software is not like a dvd-player or a car or a TV, but rather like a beautiful garden that you grow or a castle that you build watching it becoming better and better year after year. To you it may be different of cause. Then you should make different decisions based on your personal criteria.

If you do not want to support all sim developers don't. Your decision, your responsibility. Make it, take it

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Old 08-23-2011, 01:20 PM
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I'd feel screwed if I purchased RoF in 6 months or 1 year after release. Thus I purchased it 2 years after the release when it is good enough for me. Entirely my decision, my responsibility, no one to blame for bad feelings. We are all learning anyway.

CloD in its WIP stage was good enough for me immediately on release day. Entirely my decision, my responsibility, no one to blame for good feelings. To me sim software is not like a dvd-player or a car or a TV, but rather like a beautiful garden that you grow or a castle that you build watching it becoming better and better year after year. To you it may be different of cause. Then you should make different decisions based on your personal criteria.

If you do not want to support all sim developers don't. Your decision, your responsibility. Make it, take it
What he said.

CloD was much less than even I expected on release. However, the flight modelling and damage modelling alone gave me enough satisfaction to get some money's worth out of it along with the knowledge that my measly fifty bucks was going to help the only noteable ww2 flight sim maker survive long enough to continue development.

Sure, it's just as valid to look at it as if you were ripped off by a scheming, evil company that had to trick you into spending that huge sum of money, if you prefer. But myself, I've pretty much put it on the shelf until there is something more to do than shoot down bombers (as satisfying as that is in itself once a week) and will go back once most of the major bugs are sorted out and there is some "game" element injected.

Some sage advice would be to simply wait one week after release of any game/sim for reviews before drooling over the "buy" button five seconds after release. This way you can save yourself some $ and heartache.

Pretty easy really.
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Old 08-23-2011, 03:03 PM
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Honestly said CloD feels much better already than RoF. I can't understand the hate against CloD, especially when it's coming from people that like the toy plane physics of RoF.

Maybe it's just me but even starting or landing feels much better in CloD and on top it costs nothing compared to RoF where you literally get a fraction of the value for a much higher price. Yes, they put shiny sparkles on everything and the website looks better but:
Perfomance was and actually still is horrible. RoF doesn't perform a hell better than CloD for me.
Few planes, expensive to buy. Trying them out is impossible, refunds also. A concept that I hate and actually one of the reasons why I didn't buy during the last sale after all.

I don't like where they are going and in fact I had hoped the genre wouldn't drift into a sugar daddy millionaire golf club. There are train simulators on steam that cost more than 1000$ if you buy the expansions. This is insane and almost theft. It appears the flight sim genre wants to kill itself if it follows that path.

Imagine a future generation of sims asking about 10-30 dollars for each plane or whatever - I see people flying with, excuse me, shitty hardware, sitting in front of messy desks etc. but sure, they will all win the lottery and be able to buy the content mh? I believe a lot of the friendly athmosphere that's left these days (and it's getting more rare every day) will be completely replaced by those you'd not want to fly with because they aren't nice but only show offs with an attitude problem.

But then again - isn't the sale over already? Maybe this thread is done anyways ;P
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