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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

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Old 04-11-2012, 01:59 PM
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hey i have one question for you all:

after having watched those pics you have an idea of what depth perception is

now have you wonder why you dont have that perception in real life?i do have it some times after huge training i know you dont

is that a big fat cow far away or a small one close?

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Old 04-11-2012, 02:16 PM
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We DO have that kind of depth perception in life, but not on that SCALE when dealing with aircraft. Our eyes are not far enough apart to provide that STRONG a depth perception effect.

That was why I said the seperation on those photos was too large - its like looking at a lego war.
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Old 04-11-2012, 03:35 PM
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no you dont understand:

when you watch a 3d image you have a depth perception you dont have in real life, you have a different enhanced depthe perception in 3d movies from real life

the thing is that nobody perceives depth as you percieve it in a 3d movie

nobody?

well i have had 5 seconds long depth perception IDENTICAL to being inside a 3d movie

im learning to see from flat, as i have seen all my life, to see in 3d

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something that blows my mind that you will consider utterly insane is that after training i see this in 3d and can tell which star is close and which is far away since i see it in 3d:



THE SECRET TO SEE 3D IN REAL LIFE:

cross your eyes slightly from the object youre looking at while keeping it focused with the eye lens

easy?

well ive been training for years and im starting to hardly be able to see in 3d with great effort, breaking the near triad synced interconnection its difficult

the craziest thing from this is that with that method its pretty easy to see this video in 3d



my rational self decieves saying that i obtain depth from the video from the focus

my irrational self remembers me that i often see flat tv in 3d and that ive seen tv freeze and image like this:



well according years of reasearch i got the conclusion that the world is atged by colour blind people, they dont even tell black and white

even though they are great painters who use depth painting like this:

here you have a sample of depth colour paint:



and here a sample of black shade depth paint:



you cant even imagine to what degree the world is staged, my most lower claculations is that 99% of people are actors
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Old 04-11-2012, 03:59 PM
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I don't see how it's possible to see parts of a 2D image that aren't there in the first place.

I have to ask.. Where do you buy your LSD from, and how much is it?
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Old 04-11-2012, 04:44 PM
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do you want to be able to percieve the fourth dimension:

you know now how to see double:

take two identical pencils aiming away from you on a table and look double at them overimposing them

depending on weather the pencils shape a v a ^ or a II your having the perception of the fourth dimension within the third in different directions

so in the third dimension you know the pencils aim away but in the fourth dimesion you see them aiming towards you

think about it from stereoscopic flat surface you perceive 3d from stereoscopy volume you percieve 4d

thats why its so relevant us not having depth perception, if we did we would have accs to the fourth dimension + time
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no you dont understand:

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Raaaid, now seriously, you have to tell your parents take you to the doctor.
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Old 04-11-2012, 08:53 PM
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i visit regularly the doctor

you dont undesrtand:

in a game stereoscopic cockpit you dont see bars double when you look far away but in real life you do

explain me that

then you cant bring down my staged world by blind colour alien hypothesis
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Raaaid, now seriously, you have to tell your parents take you to the doctor.
i wonder i need a doctor cause i PONDER( i give it a 1% chance) that the wolrd is satged which would imply a good nature of the universe sincehooror would be fake

this is called a consistent thought, seems bizarre but makes sense

now youre pretty much CONVINCED of the media horror and at the same time, like nearly everybody believe in the good nature of the universe

this is called something patently false since its contradictory

so do you realize you like most is convinced of something patently false while have the face to call the doctor when a guy expresses with honesty?

i guess if i had said the first women came from the first man rib i wouldnt need a doctor

well check the symtoms of delusion and tell me which i full fill since you first threw the stone:

the psychiatrist and philosopher Karl Jaspers was the first to define the three main criteria for a belief to be considered delusional in his 1913 book General Psychopathology.[2] These criteria are:
certainty (held with absolute conviction)
incorrigibility (not changeable by compelling counterargument or proof to the contrary)
impossibility or falsity of content (implausible, bizarre or patently untrue)
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can you do this with the game?

Tilt shift lenses can recreate that sense of scale in 2D, do a Google search for 'tilt shift lens video' and you'll find some examples.

In regards to seeing the proper scale of clouds and things in-game, that can be experienced by projecting the game at 1:1 scale onto a large screen. I never realized how massive the clouds in the game actually are until I saw that.

And, for what it's worth Raaid, I too have seen the kind of movie-like 3D effect in real life that you're describing. And yes, I've even seen it while playing IL2 (!!!). But, so what, it's no big deal. It just requires some concentration and a shift in perception, to notice something in real life we usually just take for granted, and to allow your senses to be more thoroughly tricked by the illusion of three dimensional space being depicted in a game (or picture). It's a trivial thing really, but some people can do it and some people can't, so you have to be careful. I think it's just as ridiculous for those who can do it to say it's something mystical or other-worldy as it is for those who can't do it to say it's impossible.

The senses are easily tricked, into perceiving things that aren't there and into not perceiving things that are there (most people would be surprised).

Anyway...too much OT now for me.
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yes i just dont like to be call crazy for expressing for honesty

i hate that real world attitude of having to look normal when everybody has bizarre thoughts who they silence

yes i withdraw my saying my perception like in a 3d movie its unique

as a matter of fact im begining to learn to control it:

if i look normal i see flat as i have done all my life

but if cross my eyes VERY SLIGHTLY WITHOUT LOSING THE FOCUS i achieve a more 3d perception the more i cross the eyes before seeing doeuble moment the perception is gone

this is wrong:

"Stereopsis or retinal (binocular) disparity - Animals that have their eyes placed frontally can also use information derived from the different projection of objects onto each retina to judge depth. By using two images of the same scene obtained from slightly different angles, it is possible to triangulate the distance to an object with a high degree of accuracy"

stereopsis is an illusion actually, a construction of the mind, retines are actually flat

if you see this double as the other images \ / they cant be geometrically overimposed yet your brain does an I with depth appearance, no triangulation

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wow thanks this can not explain:



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and i insist:

you know when you drive you see the verticals bars of the car double when looking far away

verify your self, so what i say you can see that makes sense, that with an artificial 3d perception(actually a real 3d perception) you dont see vertical bars double when looking faraway:




what do you have to say at this?
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