Daidalos Team's Room -QUESTIONS AND REQUESTS ONLY - For 4.11

[Azazello]

Originally Posted by IceFire

That'd be a dream

On the outside... a +13lbs with Rotol propeller would be a blast.

would be - we have all these obscure variants of the Bf-109 and FW-190 but not more widespread British fighters like the 13lb Tempest or dare I even say the Spitfire Mk XIV. Shame really.

Maybe they'd be just a bit too awesome.

+1 for the 13lb Tempest.

Go on TD, you love it!

[IceFire]

Originally Posted by Azazello

would be - we have all these obscure variants of the Bf-109 and FW-190 but not more widespread British fighters like the 13lb Tempest or dare I even say the Spitfire Mk XIV. Shame really.

Maybe they'd be just a bit too awesome.

+1 for the 13lb Tempest.

Go on TD, you love it!

To be fair the Bf109 spans the entire war and several theaters while the Tempest arrived on the scene in 1944 and received very few modifications through it's wartime career (not counting the design lineage and history with the Typhoon). Nonetheless we're missing some key British types that I'd really love to see implemented. I'm not talking about bombers either (which is a default position people seem to take when I say that).

Going back to the Tempest itself. The biggest impediment a few years ago was utter lack of detailed documentation on the +11lbs. Oleg was more than willing to entertain the notion of a +11lb Tempest but we couldn't find enough information. It's like the Air Ministry waved its hand and proclaimed that 11lbs was just fine without worrying too much about it... sounds rather un-British like to me. There are a couple of charts but they were lacking detail and had no climb information. Surely performance information exists somewhere.

Perhaps more has been dug up since the last time I looked?

EDIT: I forgot to mention... the Spitfire XIV only problem has been a lack of 3d modeling. Back in the early days of IL-2 there were several attempts at Spitfires and the two successful ones gave us the Mark V, IX and Vc/VIII and Seafire III. There were a couple of later model Spitfires that were never finished. I know there is one that was made by one third party somewhere... not sure how fully complete it is and to what specifications it was done to. There may be others floating around somewhere! I still have some pieces of information about the XIV gunsight.

[Azazello]

Originally Posted by IceFire

To be fair the Bf109 spans the entire war and several theaters while the Tempest arrived on the scene in 1944 and received very few modifications through it's wartime career (not counting the design lineage and history with the Typhoon). Nonetheless we're missing some key British types that I'd really love to see implemented. I'm not talking about bombers either (which is a default position people seem to take when I say that).

Going back to the Tempest itself. The biggest impediment a few years ago was utter lack of detailed documentation on the +11lbs. Oleg was more than willing to entertain the notion of a +11lb Tempest but we couldn't find enough information. It's like the Air Ministry waved its hand and proclaimed that 11lbs was just fine without worrying too much about it... sounds rather un-British like to me. There are a couple of charts but they were lacking detail and had no climb information. Surely performance information exists somewhere.

Perhaps more has been dug up since the last time I looked?

EDIT: I forgot to mention... the Spitfire XIV only problem has been a lack of 3d modeling. Back in the early days of IL-2 there were several attempts at Spitfires and the two successful ones gave us the Mark V, IX and Vc/VIII and Seafire III. There were a couple of later model Spitfires that were never finished. I know there is one that was made by one third party somewhere... not sure how fully complete it is and to what specifications it was done to. There may be others floating around somewhere! I still have some pieces of information about the XIV gunsight.

I hear what you say about the Tempest - the lack of performance data is odd. Closterman's account of the 13lb makes it sound like a beast - a pity.

There is a good 3D model of the Spit XIV in UP3. They've done the XVI too.

[viktor94]

All the new aircraft from 4.09 and 4.10 should be integrated into the DGen sometimes.(AI and flyable)
The Fokkers DXXI for example is a must be for the FAF campaign.

[IceFire]

Originally Posted by Azazello

I hear what you say about the Tempest - the lack of performance data is odd. Closterman's account of the 13lb makes it sound like a beast - a pity.

There is a good 3D model of the Spit XIV in UP3. They've done the XVI too.

Do you know if:

A) It's actually finished (meaning all LODs, etc.)?
B) Done to specifications in terms of solidity of the mesh and poly count?
C) Contacted Team Daidalos?

If so that'd be fantastic. It does seem that sometimes some great MODs are out there but only partly finished (the bits important enough to get into the game) and not quite ready for an official release. I'd love for the extra mile to be covered... there are some truly great works out there.

[Azazello]

Sadly, I don't know the answers to your questions. I just play the game from time to time. All I can say is that the XIV and XVI models look good enough on screen.

[IceFire]

Originally Posted by Azazello

Sadly, I don't know the answers to your questions. I just play the game from time to time. All I can say is that the XIV and XVI models look good enough on screen.

Not to look down on the mod makers because they do fantastic stuff but often enough things are done just to get it in (which is fine) but not truly finished which is sometimes problematic over the long haul. Especially on lower end systems. This is often a problem with mods for other games too. Still I'd love to see some great content migrate over to the official patches... the mod world is a great place to iron out the kinks and get things right.

[Deliverator]

Hello there team Daidalos !

First, i'd like to introduce why i'm going to ask you, what i'm going to do. I've been an spanish IL2 user for 6 years (i've started when i was 15 years old only ) and i've been all this time a member of an spanish squad called Escuadron 69 all this time. Nowadays, we mostly fly serious missions with or/and against other squads, so we mostly use SEOW mission generator and another one called Danger Zone that is under constant update.

For this both kind of mission generators, there is one kind of mission type for supply airfields and cities. To do that, we have to turn on smoke so eventlog register the point of supply, what is really innacuratte.

I'd like to ask you to add the option to register in eventlog the drop of supply cargo from planes, and the drop of paratroopers. If these both actions are registered in eventlog, it does open a new world of gameplay adding realistic supplies and paratroopers launching to take enemy airfields and cities. More than interesting, don't you think? .

Thanks for your hard working in IL2 series Daidalos !

[Azazello]

Originally Posted by IceFire

Not to look down on the mod makers because they do fantastic stuff but often enough things are done just to get it in (which is fine) but not truly finished which is sometimes problematic over the long haul. Especially on lower end systems. This is often a problem with mods for other games too. Still I'd love to see some great content migrate over to the official patches... the mod world is a great place to iron out the kinks and get things right.

I don't know whether there's any lines open between TD and the mod makers, but it strikes me that some kind of communication might be constructive for both sides.

Perhaps someone from TD could assess the Spitfire XIV models present in UP3 to see whether they're good enough - at the very least they should provide a base from which to work.

There were as many XIVs produced as there were FW190 Doras so the XIV deserves to be in the sim, in my opinion at least.