Lucas does Red Tails...

[Sternjaeger II]

I have been following the development of this movie for a while now, they used real warbirds to shoot some of the scenes (the airbase that you see, which is supposed to be Italy, was actually shot in Czech Republic, and they used real P-51s and P-40s for flybys and other scenes) and despite the fact we already had a movie about Tuskegee Airmen, I was wondering what things would have been like when George Lucas put his hands on the genre..

The thing that puts me off it, like someone else said, is that he treated it like a "Star Wars of the 40s", with improbable points of view and scenes that defy physics for the sake of spectacularity (like the P-51 tumbling backwards and hitting the Me262), but making it a kind of ridiculous toy.

Dark Blue World, and to a certain extent The Red Baron were the last movies made with intelligence on the subject. The Pearl Harbor issue wasn't the aerial scenes per se (which were relatively ok, considering that there again, they used real planes), it was the appalling romance plot and acting.

[Blackdog_kt]

I think i'm going to agree with Stearnjaeger. I remember seeing photos from the shooting in Czech Republic, they also had a B-17 there with them.

Ditto also on DBW and the Red Baron which did suffer from its own set of inaccuracies (Lanoe Hawker flying an Se5a?!) and romance sub-plot but was generally believable in how the aircraft acted.

Originally Posted by Jatta Raso

hey Lord of the Rings are great movies, it was no easy task. of course it could have been different, but see not many ways to do it better. if Dambusters goes forward i also trust it will turn out ok.

I don't disagree, i watched all of the LOTR movies too. I was trying to say that while people might be put off by the fact that Jackson is a well known fantasy films director, he is also very interested in aviation and history and could possible give us a realistic movie. Let's hope so

[BadAim]

Wow.

[Ze-Jamz]

Originally Posted by Sternjaeger II

The thing that puts me off it, like someone else said, is that he treated it like a "Star Wars of the 40s", with improbable points of view and scenes that defy physics for the sake of spectacularity (like the P-51 tumbling backwards and hitting the Me262), but making it a kind of ridiculous toy.

Exactly my thoughts

[ElAurens]

Originally Posted by Ze-Jamz

Exactly my thoughts

+1

[VF101-jay]

I had read that Lucas started working toward this movie way back in the early 80's, if that is true I would have to assume this was an important project for him. With that in mind I will try to keep an open mind going into the theater to see this movie. My hope is that the somewhat unrealistic feel present in the trailer flight scenes was caused by the editing, I got the impression that spots may have been sped up to make the action seem more hectic. At this point I am thrilled to get any WW2 aviation movie, though I am glad that the one where Tom Cruise was going to play an American pilot that saved the British in his remake of the Battle of Britain was cancelled...that could have started a new war! LOL.

[Sternjaeger II]

this movie will be also used as propaganda for a certain racial group to join the Army..

Btw I would have expected Steven Spielberg to work on this, he was the one with the dad flying in B-25s in the Pacific, and one of his very first amateur movies he made when he was a child was done at his dad's base after the war.

[Lololopoulos]

Originally Posted by Ze-Jamz

Exactly my thoughts

i took another close look, the p-51 actually hit an 109, and then the scene was quickly cut to an me262 being shot off a wing.

shooting down bomber is made too easy in this film. most likely they have "realistic gunnery" turned off.

i'm really looking forward to this movie, but i'll probably ended up being disappointed and cursing the FM all the way through.

oh and did u guys see the livery of those 109s? geez.... they really should have done some more research.