Post links to 'cheating using the soundmod' tracks here:

[Lo0n]

Originally Posted by zapatista

i get it now, having an 1-16 with the engine of a 190 and the guns of a hurricane doesnt really matter as long as it takes the places of the original rata ?

mm i think there might be a flaw there in your logic ?
takes the place the fm dm and wm of the rate. so it will look like a mutant, but behave like a rata. this is where people swap out the fm of one model so you get a do335 that flies like a lerche.



dont be shy now, if you dish it out be prepared to be treated the same in return. when the lot of you starts to behave in a civilised manner, i think most others here will treat you the same in return.
ha fat chance. most others maybe, not you. it started civil, look where it is now.

what is it with your bunch, do you have a brand new clone typing at the keyboard each time you logon and everything needs to be explained to you again ?

- links demonstrating cheating with the use of the soundmod files have been posted
it got removed
- specific examples of the type of cheats in use were given, mirrors, gyro's etc.. and were addressed
- demonstrated non authorized planes in full real restricted servers being used didn't show the entire process, ie a fraps vid as requested
- franken monster plane examples given and? that alters appearance, not fm/dm/wm
- others from your own hack crowd confirmed here and "there" that checksum 2 doesnt work, even if you keep doubting me. i doubt you because i have not seen it, like i said, pm the direct links

you seem to expect from me that i am going to post links to some of the actual hack files, or spend half a day creating some horror planes myself just because some doubting Thomas on some internet forum cant use google.
the onus is on you to prove what you say, i ain't doing the leg work



err is that why you keep posting here ?
only because you do zap, just for you

i'll have to disappoint you, its not why i am posting here, everybody has already lost , even if you dont seem to realize it.

well, there are several thousand who would argue that... and to be quite frank, it is people like yourself who will finish the community off, co-existance is entirely possible, nay, desired by most. however you and your ilk will not let this happen and will instead stir with the insults and accusations when you get righteously owned online.

[zapatista]

Originally Posted by Lo0n

well, there are several thousand who would argue that... and to be quite frank, it is people like yourself who will finish the community off, co-existance is entirely possible, nay, desired by most. however you and your ilk will not let this happen and will instead stir with the insults and accusations when you get righteously owned online.

is it ground hog day where you live ? you keep spinning around in circles chasing your own tail

and what with all these RTFM errors with you lot, if you cant be bothered learning the quote system for online forums, dont expect people to to decompile the soup of text you posted and try and find something meaningful in it.

[Lo0n]

Originally Posted by zapatista

is it ground hog day where you live ? you keep spinning around in circles chasing your own tail

and what with all these RTFM errors with you lot, if you cant be bothered learning the quote system for online forums, dont expect people to to decompile the soup of text you posted and try and find something meaningful in it.

chasing my tail? where exactly am i chasing my tail by pointing out that you are the kind of reprobate that will finish the community off with insults and accusations of cheating when you get owned by honest fliers online? thats a new point.
and there is no manual here, i use the qoute system as i want to. you are having the same problems as with stalker when he answered your "points" individually, i made it easier for you by putting it in bold you evidently need the help.

[zapatista]

Originally Posted by Lo0n

and there is no manual here, i use the qoute system as i want to. you are having the same problems as with stalker when he answered your "points" individually, i made it easier for you by putting it in bold

no prize there, return to starting point and try again

if we are going to discuss apples and oranges, it doesnt work if you paint an orange green and start referring to it as an apple from then on. dont panic now if you cant understand that either, that was an analogy again. if you are going to use your own "special posting system" here using your own "special words" (like you seem to have your own private definition of what cheating means to you), then dont expect the rest of the universe to change its accepted conventions to decipher it and understand you. btw, it seems you put about the same lack of effort into trying to communicate here whatever thoughts are floating around in your head.

i have tried to keep this simple for you:

the question: evidence of 'cheating using the soundmod' hack

the answers given in this thread:

- links demonstrating cheating with the use of the new soundmod file hack is indeed possible, and having modified files can not be detected anymore when you join online servers, examples have been posted
- specific examples of the type of cheats that can be used were given, mirrors, gyro's, improved distance visibility etc.. also explained to you that cheats like that can not be seen by other users making a track of what happens in the server at the time.
- demonstrated non authorized planes in full real restricted servers being used, and is completely possible now.
- franken monster plane examples given, including how their use can have several advantages (ie a form of cheating)
- others from your own hack crowd confirmed here and "there" that checksum 2 doesnt work, even if you keep doubting it.

by your own admission you say you dont fly online, and the center of your argument you keep repeating is "i havnt seen it therefore it doesnt exist", cant you see the absurdety of that ?

you seem to expect from me that i am going to post links to some of the actual hack files, or spend half a day creating some horror planes myself just because some doubting Thomas on some internet forum cant use google. there have also been notes from the forum mod not to give specific information here on where and how it is being done. put some effort in yourself if you still cant figure this out with all the information you have been given, you seem to expect us to keep wasting our time to spoon feed you.

[Lo0n]

Originally Posted by zapatista

no prize there, return to starting point and try again

if we are going to discuss apples and oranges, it doesnt work if you paint an orange green and start referring to it as an apple from then on. dont panic now if you cant understand that either, that was an analogy again. if you are going to use your own "special posting system" here using your own "special words" (like you seem to have your own private definition of what cheating means to you), then dont expect the rest of the universe to change its accepted conventions to decipher it and understand you. btw, it seems you put about the same lack of effort into trying to communicate here whatever thoughts are floating around in your head.

i have tried to keep this simple for you:

the question: evidence of 'cheating using the soundmod' hack

the answers given in this thread:

- links demonstrating cheating with the use of the new soundmod file hack is indeed possible, and having modified files can not be detected anymore when you join online servers, examples have been posted
- specific examples of the type of cheats that can be used were given, mirrors, gyro's, improved distance visibility etc.. also explained to you that cheats like that can not be seen by other users making a track of what happens in the server at the time.
- demonstrated non authorized planes in full real restricted servers being used, and is completely possible now.
- franken monster plane examples given, including how their use can have several advantages (ie a form of cheating)
- others from your own hack crowd confirmed here and "there" that checksum 2 doesnt work, even if you keep doubting it.

by your own admission you say you dont fly online, and the center of your argument you keep repeating is "i havnt seen it therefore it doesnt exist", cant you see the absurdety of that ?

you seem to expect from me that i am going to post links to some of the actual hack files, or spend half a day creating some horror planes myself just because some doubting Thomas on some internet forum cant use google. there have also been notes from the forum mod not to give specific information here on where and how it is being done. put some effort in yourself if you still cant figure this out with all the information you have been given, you seem to expect us to keep wasting our time to spoon feed you.

zap, give up with this trying to call me an idiot line. it got old pages ago.
theone link is dead, and was apparently a cheat not related to the soundhack, miss that bit being repeated? the cheats you mention, such as mirrors, are more an advantage than a cheat - an advantage like having track ir, or a huge monitor or equipment that varies between users. cheats are fm/dm/wm changes - things like having mk108's on a p11.c. the frankenplanes, well if you think having something like a different cowling on a 109 is a cheat then fine. as i've said it doesn't change fm/dm/wm, but you ignore this every time. you may a point with the removed headrest, but when you start going on about clearer perspex textures that's clutching at straws. whilst i don't fly online i do look around forums and such for people saying "w00t i got a supersonic gladiator". apparently cheating, from what i read, is possible (and has been for oh so long), but it requires more talent than the average user. i have repeatedly asked for pm's because i know the trouble that would follow from posting it in forums. you missed the point of this thread from the start. evidence. anyway, this thread had taken a turn for the better til you returned.
the only time that has been wasted is all the time you chose to try and turn this into a flamefest instead of a proper discussion.
good day to you, and may your turkey be burnt and dry.

[zapatista]

Originally Posted by Lo0n

zap, give up with this trying to call me an idiot line. it got old pages ago.

your words, but if the hat fits, you know.... 20 pages of this and its been explained to you about 20 times, not sure what you'd call that.

Originally Posted by Lo0n

theone link is dead, and was apparently a cheat not related to the soundhack, miss that bit being repeated?

you mean you are so busy typing rude posts to people and not actually reading the posts in this thread ? the poster gave it as an example of using the soundmod online recently, you think he was a plant in ninja clothing dropped in by a black UN helicopter in the deep of night ? i'd say its a bit odd you didnt download it with all the arguing about the issue you are doing here in the last week, and now your asking me to help you and repost it again ? and if you are such a smartypants didnt you even notice there is still screenshots posted in this thread from that same track by another users ?

Originally Posted by Lo0n

the cheats you mention, such as mirrors, are more an advantage than a cheat -

there you go again with your green oranges trying to pretend they are apples. you can call them whatever you will, for the rest of us adding features that aid flying in online servers without other users having access to them, or knowing about it, is cheating !

Originally Posted by Lo0n

an advantage like having track ir, or a huge monitor or equipment that varies between users.

i find it odd you cant figure these simple things out by yourself. anybody can go out and get a bigger pc, larger monitor, track it etc, the sim is designed to use them and anybody can. in fact it isnt even that "the bigger the better", a user with a 20' crt set at 1024x768 is much better at spotting distant aircraft dots then a 30' lcd user with his screen at native res.

Originally Posted by Lo0n

cheats are fm/dm/wm changes - things like having mk108's on a p11.c. the frankenplanes, well if you think having something like a different cowling on a 109 is a cheat then fine. as i've said it doesn't change fm/dm/wm, but you ignore this every time.

bollocks ! the illustration of the franken planes i gave to show the cutting and pasting of plane structures was well in progress which you were denying. and even for the apparently very innocent ones i posted there was already IMPROVED FEATURES (like cockpit visibility and more transparent glass), this therefore constitutes a form of cheating if used online. i also posted a clip from your little zoo friend indicating they seem to believe that type of bastardizing is entirely normal and will continue.

Originally Posted by Lo0n

whilst i don't fly online i do look around forums and such for people saying "w00t i got a supersonic gladiator". apparently cheating, from what i read, is possible (and has been for oh so long), but it requires more talent than the average user.

your convoluted sense of logic is flabbergasting, your now confessing you've known all along cheating is indeed possible, both in the past as well as right now ? why you keep wasting everybody's time here denying it then ?

Originally Posted by Lo0n

i have repeatedly asked for pm's because i know the trouble that would follow from posting it in forums. you missed the point of this thread from the start.

no i didnt miss the point, but somehow you seem to think you'r going to be rude to people and then they are going to run around and help you just because you dont understand something, or cant find something. is that how it works in your household ? you'r going to have a bit of a rude awakening when you get out of your sheltered life you been leading.

Originally Posted by Lo0n

anyway, this thread had taken a turn for the better til you returned.
the only time that has been wasted is all the time you chose to try and turn this into a flamefest instead of a proper discussion.

poor loon, is it inconvenient for you there is other forum users whom have a different opinion to your own ? dont babble so much nonsense here and they'll probably leave you alone. just stick to the community back stabbing and childish talk in your own little forum.

[Bandit Bill]

Originally Posted by zapatista

your words, but if the hat fits, you know.... 20 pages of this and its been explained to you about 20 times, not sure what you'd call that.

...

poor loon, is it inconvenient for you there is other forum users whom have a different opinion to your own ? dont babble so much nonsense here and they'll probably leave you alone. just stick to the community back stabbing and childish talk in your own little forum.

Beating, horse, dead.

Zapatista, how about you take up a more noble cause with all the time that you are spending frothing at the mouth here? Like feeding the worlds hungry or something?

The 'children' at the other thread have decided that convincing Oleg would be an easier task than convincing you and your rabid cronies, so hopefully you will be wailing and knashing your teeth together to no one else but yourself very soon.. it's time for you to refocus on something you can control.

No matter the amount of self-indignant righteousness you display here, the genie is out of the bottle, and he ain't being stuffed back in. Get over it.

[Lo0n]

Originally Posted by zapatista

your words, but if the hat fits, you know.... 20 pages of this and its been explained to you about 20 times, not sure what you'd call that.
not my words you simpleton, that is what you try to keep on saying, in your inelegant, frothy manner. there has been 20 pages of "please post evidence", and no evidence posted. just reference to the ONE track that was posted, and that was removed before i dl'd it, and the screenshots... well that showed feck all as far as i was concerned. coulda been a ckruntime=1 server for all it showed. and also, that particular "use a plane not on the planeset" cheat is the result of something other than the sound mod. as pointed out in THIS very thread. so yeah, try again zap.


you mean you are so busy typing rude posts to people and not actually reading the posts in this thread ? the poster gave it as an example of using the soundmod online recently, you think he was a plant in ninja clothing dropped in by a black UN helicopter in the deep of night ? i'd say its a bit odd you didnt download it with all the arguing about the issue you are doing here in the last week, and now your asking me to help you and repost it again ? and if you are such a smartypants didnt you even notice there is still screenshots posted in this thread from that same track by another users ?
well zap, considering the tone of your posts i'd say i've been rather restrained. and it is rich to see you saying "ignore posts" - for the love of god man, POST SOME EVIDENCE. i'd say it was odd that it was removed so quickly. and again, as posted by ooo a couple people now, that was a cheat entirely seperate from the soundmod.


there you go again with your green oranges trying to pretend they are apples. you can call them whatever you will, for the rest of us adding features that aid flying in online servers without other users having access to them, or knowing about it, is cheating !
and my point being that they are an added feature, as equally available to all equipment, like track IR. actually... no, more freely available - i don't have the money to spend on track IR.

i find it odd you cant figure these simple things out by yourself. anybody can go out and get a bigger pc, larger monitor, track it etc, the sim is designed to use them and anybody can. in fact it isnt even that "the bigger the better", a user with a 20' crt set at 1024x768 is much better at spotting distant aircraft dots then a 30' lcd user with his screen at native res.
it may be designed to use it, but not everyone has them. only those that can afford it, which is not everyone. see above.


bollocks ! the illustration of the franken planes i gave to show the cutting and pasting of plane structures was well in progress which you were denying. and even for the apparently very innocent ones i posted there was already IMPROVED FEATURES (like cockpit visibility and more transparent glass), this therefore constitutes a form of cheating if used online. i also posted a clip from your little zoo friend indicating they seem to believe that type of bastardizing is entirely normal and will continue.
ah starting to lose it there?
where exactly did i deny the frankenplanes? i have not denied them, i have merely pointed out that they use existing FM's of planes they replace. and again, more transparent glass? lame. how much difference does that actually make. the frankenplanes give cosmetic changes to existing types. it's not altered fm, dm wm, so for the G4... it is a G2 in all but appearance.


your convoluted sense of logic is flabbergasting, your now confessing you've known all along cheating is indeed possible, both in the past as well as right now ? why you keep wasting everybody's time here denying it then ?
well deary, not my fault if you can't grasp the concept of reading a few places to see what is being said. hell if people read just this thread... online would die in a day. cheating, from what i have read in the past few days when reasonable people join the thread, or in other places, has apparently existed in various forms for years. these were nothing to do with the sound mod were they, did it exist then? no. that is the point, prove the cheating that is caused by the soundmod. you SO missed the point.

no i didnt miss the point, but somehow you seem to think you'r going to be rude to people and then they are going to run around and help you just because you dont understand something, or cant find something. is that how it works in your household ? you'r going to have a bit of a rude awakening when you get out of your sheltered life you been leading.
yeah you did, you decided to turn this into a flame, try and get it locked, and then it allows you to continue with your hysterical EVERYBODY'S CHEATING flap. i have not seen it myself, i have asked people who might have, i have said please, i have received vitriol in return. if this is how it works in your house perhaps someone should call social services and have your son put with some more stable people.


poor loon, is it inconvenient for you there is other forum users whom have a different opinion to your own ? dont babble so much nonsense here and they'll probably leave you alone. just stick to the community back stabbing and childish talk in your own little forum.

no it is inconvenient that despite all of this, nothing has come of it other than a 21 page bitchfest. i like different opinions, the world would be dreadfully stagnant and boring without them. the fact that you react in such a way does not give the impression that you value others opinions any more than a starving man values a lump of coal. the childishness is entirely your own, and you are attempting to project it onto anyone that disagrees with you. continue your rant, why not get sweary and stamp your little feet and shake your little fists some more. go on, it does make for cheap amusement.

[ABC123]

I looked to see if any one used this to show how some of the mods are a problem. One is swapping fm/dm of fighters..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bA2Bi...elated&search=

Here is has swapped the Lerche with a do###

If some one has posted this.... sorry for the repeat.

But this is what makes me sick.. Now I have to wonder did I just lose due to my error or a spit 25lb in spit vc cloths.