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View Poll Results: Would you like to be informed in a regular and effective way on the patch progress?
Yes, please. 213 85.89%
No, thank you. 27 10.89%
I'm not sure. 8 3.23%
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Old 07-27-2011, 05:42 AM
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Respectfully Blackdog, you over looked something?
Tree_UK does represent a lot of thoughts here, to include mine...
I would have posted more than I have....It's just that he beat me to it.

The poll here represents that...and support for his views/statements.

Here is the one thing that we all may agree upon?
Luthier can put this "fire" out anytime he wants to....

What is of concern to me?
Why won't he?

Thanx Tree, you saved me a lot of typing the last couple of days.
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Old 07-27-2011, 06:18 AM
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Respectfully, Pudfark,

how do you come to the conclusion that Tree represents more than the max. 12 people which agree with him from time to time????

Dont tell me you actually believe in those "polls", which are as biased as possible.
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Old 07-27-2011, 06:38 AM
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Blackdog

Would you like to be informed in a regular and effective way on patch progress

How can that be misleading, yes or no?? very simple really, the reason the question is being asked is because at present we are not being informed, so i fail to see how the poll is some kind trap for unsuspecting members.

Blackdog - another long post, I dont speak for anyone other than myself its just that as you can see 145 people currently share my view and only 14 share yours, that makes you part of a minority, I cant help that it is what it is. Also the poill does not ask for 'weekly' updates as you suggested it clearly ask for regular.

Lastly, regarding my predictions I see you have jumped on the same bandwagon as others suggesting I predicted eveything, that is wrong if you bothered to research this particular attack on me by reading my old posts you would see I concentrated my predictions in certain key areas, Im dissappointed that you have failed to gather some factual evidence, I had this discussion recently and challenged two people to look at my old posts, they failed to respond, perhaps your the guy to finally expose me?? Good luck.
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Old 07-27-2011, 06:50 AM
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Except according to the original poster the poll was to indicate who wanted to be informed in a regular and and effective way. I specifically said that I didn't want the poll to reflect that a YEAH vote from me would be misconstrued as a vote of dissatisfaction for how the updates were handled now.

I've laid out in two posts how I think (dependent upon real demonstrable progress) that the flow of information was fine with me. When the foundational processes are fixed I'd expect more free flow of info as to future updates and patches. The OP assured me that was his intention. Yes we all want information, but I want useful information put out in a pertinent manner.... not just for pixel's sake.

You've taken it to mean the very thing I wanted to guard against because that's not how I feel. Maybe there are 90 out of 100 that feel the way you do. There may only be 10% that do. As the poll is written it's impossible to discern which outcome was meant by the tally. According to the OP you've misinterpreted his poll.
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Old 07-27-2011, 06:56 AM
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Except according to the original poster the poll was to indicate who wanted to be informed in a regular and and effective way. I specifically said that I didn't want the poll to reflect that a YEAH vote from me would be misconstrued as a vote of dissatisfaction for how the updates were handled now.

I've laid out in two posts how I think (dependent upon real demonstrable progress) that the flow of information was fine with me. When the foundational processes are fixed I'd expect more free flow of info as to future updates and patches. The OP assured me that was his intention. Yes we all want information, but I want useful information put out in a pertinent manner.... not just for pixel's sake.

You've taken it to mean the very thing I wanted to guard against because that's not how I feel. Maybe there are 90 out of 100 that feel the way you do. There may only be 10% that do. As the poll is written it's impossible to discern which outcome was meant by the tally. According to the OP you've misinterpreted his poll.
Robert, the petition thread was more represenative of forum members and in under 1 hour 80 people had signed it, then it was removed. it doesn't matter how you guys dress it up the simple fact is the members are not satisfied with the poor communication from the Dev's. End off.
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Old 07-27-2011, 07:16 AM
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Unfortunately many people will take "Regular updates" in the Poll as "weekly updates" and use the poll results to defend their position. I can only surmise this by the amount of people who go off their nut if a weekly update doesn't show up. My contention is and always has been that weekly updates are untenable, and unrealistic, as even the developers are finding out after their stated hopes of providing the same. Yes its possible that some updates could be a week apart, but don't lose your nut if there are gaps of a few weeks.
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Old 07-27-2011, 07:25 AM
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Robert, the petition thread was more represenative of forum members and in under 1 hour 80 people had signed it, then it was removed. it doesn't matter how you guys dress it up the simple fact is the members are not satisfied with the poor communication from the Dev's. End off.

Well, I guess we'll all have to remain frustrated then. I don't see the amount on information drastically changing until closer to beta release.

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Old 07-27-2011, 07:31 AM
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Robert, the petition thread was more represenative of forum members and in under 1 hour 80 people had signed it, then it was removed. it doesn't matter how you guys dress it up the simple fact is the members are not satisfied with the poor communication from the Dev's. End off.
No simpleton, some members are not happy.

Many members are patient enough to realise that developers are often put under pressure by publishers to release something incomplete to keep the project funded.

Many members remember how long it took the first game to mold into a gem, and can see the potential and progress already made with this sim.

Many members are also sick of the constant, public requests for contact from the devs and claims of "other devs keep in contact" when that is total rubbish. ROF doesn't have the contact, FSX never had the contact, even when ACES was still running.

Now do please either PM the devs with your requests, or be quiet.
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Old 07-27-2011, 07:41 AM
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Scotchegg, did you see the petition on communication before it was removed?

Your in the minority.
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Old 07-27-2011, 07:45 AM
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No simpleton, some members are not happy.

Many members are patient enough to realise that developers are often put under pressure by publishers to release something incomplete to keep the project funded.

Many members remember how long it took the first game to mold into a gem, and can see the potential and progress already made with this sim.

Many members are also sick of the constant, public requests for contact from the devs and claims of "other devs keep in contact" when that is total rubbish. ROF doesn't have the contact, FSX never had the contact, even when ACES was still running.

Now do please either PM the devs with your requests, or be quiet.
sorry i didn't read your post past this bit; No simpleton

If you want to insult me trying being smarter or at least show some wit.
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