Post links to 'cheating using the soundmod' tracks here:

[zapatista]

and another kodak moment for the cheat deniers, see attached jpeg

a Frankenstein p51 with rearview mirror from a spit

and before the black helicopter brigade starts yelling photoshop, the thread i grabbed this from is here: http://www.simhq.com/forum/ubbthread...59#Post2403059

similar problems exist with people using a "no cockpit" view in full real servers

[zapatista]

how about a spitfire with a gyro sight from a p51 ?

for those that are a bit slow in following the bush fire that has now gone out of control, the original soundmod had just a few aspects changed (mainly the sound files, but some other things as well) and you could partiallu block its use with checksum 2, now LOTS of things have been changed since any 12yo with notepad can cut and paste bits of one aircraft config into another plane, so the options are limitless and you cant detect it is being used online.

just for those kiddies who cant deflection shot using a graded reticle as it was done historically, you can now have a MKII Gyro Gunsight For the Spitfire IX

[stalkervision]

leaving out quite a bit of historical facts on purpose from the original webpage aren't we now? Why doesn't that surprise me? You are so busted....



========================FACTS===================== ===
The P-51D/K introduced the K-14 computing gyro gunsight, based on a British (Ferranti) design http://home.att.net/~jbaugher1/p51_10.html

In the summer and autumn of 1944 four major improvements incorporated in Spitfire fighter variants at that time deserve special mention in this account. In order of thier entry into service they were: the installation of the gyro gunsight, the fitting of the 'E' Type wing and armament, the fitting of the bubble canopy, together with a redesigned and cut-back fuselage, and the installation of additional fuel tanks iin the rear fuselage. These Modifications greatly increased the fighting ability of the Spitfire.
: Late Mark Spitfire Aces 1942–45 - Alfred Price - Osprey puplishing
========================FACTS===================== ===

The Gyro gunsight;
In action the effectiveness of a fighter's cannon and machine guns depends on the pilot's ability to aim the rounds with sufficient accuracy to score hits on the target. During the mid-war period RAF fighters carried simple GM2 reflector gunsights. This provided an illuminated fixed aiming point in the centre of the reflector glas, surrounded by a fixed circle which helped the pilot judge the correct deflection angle when engaging a manouvering crossing target. In fact the ability to judge the deflection angle accurately in the heat of the battle was the main points that seperated the ace pilots from the also-rans. Early in the war it was realised that if an automatic device could be developed to indicate to the pilot the correct amount of deflection to use when firing during a turning combat, this would greatly enhance the effectiveness of the fighter force.
: Late Mark Spitfire Aces 1942–45 - Alfred Price - Osprey puplishing




http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gyro_gunsight

[zapatista]

Originally Posted by stalkervision

leaving out quite a bit of historical facts on purpose from the original webpage aren't we now? Why doesn't that surprise me? You are so busted....

cant you even count to 10 using your own fingers ?

the problem with the unrestricted hacking in il2 is not about what people like to add or change, it is that suddenly you have 1 group flying online with the legitimate il2 specifications, and another group is on the same full real server but has added gun sight gyro's to planes that shouldnt have it, increased their visibility by removing the cockpit, added mirrors in planes that dont normally have them, increased dot sizes for distant aircraft etc..

you really still cant see that argument ?

so lets see how many fingers you need for this
1) if everybody uses the same legitimate il2 files to fly online, then there is a level playing field and no cheating
2) people can now with hacked files join full real servers and remain undetected, using completely altered game option settings (removing cockpits, adding plane sets that are not allowed etc..) and use plane sets with different features (adding mirrors, adding idiot proof gyro gun sights , ... etc)
3) nobody cares what the hack kiddies get up to late at night playing with eachother as long as they only do it in their own home, and dont harm any animals or other humans

you only needed 3 little steps to understand it so you only need one hand, and you can keep doing with the other hand what you have been doing all along so far

[fly_zo]

.... bla, bla,bla..... insults when proven wrong .... so typical

[zapatista]

Originally Posted by fly_zo

.... bla, bla,bla..... insults when proven wrong .... so typical

? proven wrong about what

if you dont understand what is posted in the thread, try not to participate in the conversation because you are making a fool of yourself. you only need to follow 2 little steps

1) if everybody uses the same legitimate il2 files to fly online in full real servers, then there is a level playing field and no cheating

2) if some people can now join full real servers with hacked files and remain undetected, and use completely altered game option settings (removing cockpits, adding plane sets that are not allowed etc..) and use plane sets with different features (adding mirrors, adding idiot proof gyro gun sights , ... etc) then you have one group who is cheating and gaining an unfair advantage

simple really, aint it ?

you only needed 2 fingers to follow that one, just like at Agincourt

[Lo0n]

Originally Posted by zapatista

? proven wrong about what

if you dont understand what is posted in the thread, try not to participate in the conversation because you are making a fool of yourself. you only need to follow 2 little steps

1) if everybody uses the same legitimate il2 files to fly online in full real servers, then there is a level playing field and no cheating

2) if some people can now join full real servers with hacked files and remain undetected, and use completely altered game option settings (removing cockpits, adding plane sets that are not allowed etc..) and use plane sets with different features (adding mirrors, adding idiot proof gyro gun sights , ... etc) then you have one group who is cheating and gaining an unfair advantage

simple really, aint it ?

you only needed 2 fingers to follow that one, just like at Agincourt

or...
1. everyone uses the same modded files, which gives things like the gyro gunsite to late mark spits, rear view mirrors to planes that did actually have them (seen many photos of mustangs with mirrors - ones like the spit, ones like you get on motorbikes etc), reskinned pits, better object visibility yadda yadda, and unadulterated fm/dm/wm. then you have the level playing field. surely there is some way to load the plane files server side so that everyone gets the same deal?
2. there has still been no proof posted (unless i missed it...) that the soundmod works in chkruntime=2 servers. someone install and use fraps to record modded files, and then logging into a chkruntime=2 server. not already being in server and using something they shouldn't have, that doesn't really prove the point of secure servers being vulnerable.

and for what it's worth my shooting is better without the gyro sights, so i wouldn't call them idiot proof.

[stalkervision]

zapatista;31494 cant you even count to 10 using your own fingers ?


Apparently your the one with a real learning deficiency here not me since you can't even understand a simple web page like this one. That or your a balded face lier. Which is it?


zapatista... he problem with the unrestricted hacking in il2 is not about what people like to add or change, it is that suddenly you have 1 group flying online with the legitimate il2 specifications, and another group is on the same full real server but has added gun sight gyro's to planes that shouldnt have it, increased their visibility by removing the cockpit, added mirrors in planes that dont normally have them, increased dot sizes for distant aircraft etc..

stalker..One can download these mods or not. These gunsites and mirror mods you just mention I have found not very useful in the heat of battle. The other "mods" you mention I haven't seen on the site you quote but don't understand. I believe you must be a very very poor flier to worry about these "mods" as much as you do...


zapatista..so lets see how many fingers you need for this

Stalker.. Repeating shop worn insults seems to be your forte. At least I can count using my fingers. Your are as goofy as they come..

zapatista.. 1) if everybody uses the same legitimate il2 files to fly online, then there is a level playing field and no cheating

Stalker.. You really are the crummest flier around aren't you? Anyone can use these mods buddy or aren't you aware of this? I suggest you download them all proto because you obviously need them all and please stop constantly whining like the little girl about them will you sally?

zapatista...2) people can now with hacked files join full real servers and remain undetected, using completely altered game option settings (removing cockpits, adding plane sets that are not allowed etc..) and use plane sets with different features (adding mirrors, adding idiot proof gyro gun sights , ... etc)

Stalker...You could download all these options and it still wouldn't help you. I suggest the "idiot proof gunsite" first for you to really see if it is truly "idiot proof" Your the perfect test case..


zapatista..3) nobody cares what the hack kiddies get up to late at night playing with eachother as long as they only do it in their own home, and dont harm any animals or other humans

Stalker.."hack Kiddies"? You really are a disgrunteled hacker aren't you? What is the matter didn't pass "hack 101" ?

zapatista..you only needed 3 little steps to understand it so you only need one hand, and you can keep doing with the other hand what you have been doing all along so far

Stalker..

and what does one do with the other hand zapatista since apparently I am speaking to a real true expert here in one hand, hand management?