Tracers too fast looking?

[Dialn911]

Originally Posted by Blackdog_kt

For the umpteenth time:

If people want movie-like tracers with camera artifacts like wobble included there's nothing wrong with it and i'm sure there will be mods for that in a little while.

The stock tracers however should stick to how the human eye sees them and in that regard CoD's tracers are not perfect, but they are almost perfect. The only problem is that they are a bit too thick when they are close to you, nothing else.

I don't want to force everyone to play a game the way i like it and i don't want others to do the same to me. Stock tracers should be looking the real deal, modded tracers can be completely custom, everyone is happy in the long run.

I just don't want to have to suffer hollywood tracers in a sim that's made so much effort to display things they way the eye seems them, because it would mess with the consistency of the whole visual package. Hollywood tracers are perfect for WoP because it goes for the vignette, "band of brothers" style image: the whole package is consistent in what it tries to do.

CoD tries to do something else and completely do away with camera artifacts, so a single element displaying those would mess up the rest of the package through inconsistency.

I've been a flak gunner in the local airforce, fired 20mm cannons, G3 assault rifles and even .303 rounds (there's a few thousand of WWII Bren machine guns in brand spanking new condition in inventory) and CoD's tracers are much closer to what i saw on the range under all kinds of light conditions than anything else in any other prop sim thus far.

That doesn't mean you should like them, it just means it's realistic. If people want the hollywood effect they have the choice to mod their game and that's fine by me. I just don't want it to be forced on me, because after my time as a conscript it just looks completely fake and out of place with how the rest of the effects are done (shadows, lighting and so on) and this would detract from immersion.

I'm not saying WoP is not pretty to look at because it is, RoF is also very nice looking. They are just going for a different aesthetic approach than the one CoD is trying for, so i think their effects are out of place for CoD: it's like messing up your colour palette with colours from another one.
It would be the same as taking WoP or RoF and implementing a visual element from CoD, it would stick out like a sore thumb because it would be done with a totally different aesthetic approach than everything else.

I have to agree with the lack of tracer quality on the game. I have seen tracers fired in real world settings, I have shot them myself watching them go out. My first impression with these in the game was WTF? They look cheap, lazy, and ridiculous. They leave too fast, and appear to move in a perfectly straight line outward. No convergence what soever of ballistic drop. I tried aiming high at a bomber to ark and compensate for bullet drop....no need, they flew straight like lasers. I simply has to point and fire. Firing weapons my whole life including machine guns, I was puzzled and confused by the lack of balletic physics that appear in COD. Also, the tracers leave and at about 100 yards out and magically vanish into nothing. I hate to say it, but this is a sad excuse for tracers and seriously makes the game look as if they put something in for a temporary marker while testing and forgot to fix it.


I know a lot of you on here think they supposedly look "authentic", but having fired automatic weapons with tracers.....um, no...they look like crap and sound like crap.

Before I hear a bunch of fan boys trying to chastise me, I have been playing sims for over 20 years and am an avid support of maddox. I own the complete Il-2 series and have loved them, this is why I showed my support and bough a 50 dollar game with a POOR 2.0 average rating from all the user and professional critic reviews and websites. I figured they will work all this out, but some stuff is really bad. You have to call a spade a spade.

When I buy a new Il-2 game, and I find myself booting up 1946 to play when I have COD staring me on the shelf....yeah they really screwed the pooch. Hyper lobby if full of Il-2 hardcore gamers loading up 1946 despite the fact COD is out. That says a lot right there.