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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

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Old 07-15-2011, 02:52 PM
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Do not be surprised if all updates will go through official channels only from now on (which are UBI and Steam). Luthier's goodwill including Meet the Team update was perceived with too much negativity on these forums. The same happened at sukhoi.ru forums back in 2002 when Oleg stopped posting there after discussion became negative instead of constructive.

1C is the publisher for Russia only. UBI is payed by you for providing support and communication in the rest of the world.
That would be a terrible loss in my opinion, and frankly the dev team need to grow a much thicker skin if that really is the case. The raging we've seen on this forum is nothing compared to the great majority of other game forums, where opinions tend to be even more polarised and antagonistic, often outright insulting. If you can't take the heat, you shouldn't be in the kitchen - they must have known what kind of response the game would receive in the early stages and prepared themselves for that. To drop communication now because a few idiots have been a bit nasty to them would be childish, irresponsible and insulting to the people who've paid for the game.

And, as another poster mentioned, not communicating because your players are angry just makes them even more angry, so it becomes a vicious circle that will only end when you grow some balls and take the criticism - which, had you communicated in the first place, probably wouldn't be as bad.


Another point - yes, 1C are the Russian publisher, and we know Ubi are responsible for international publishing and distribution.

However - we come here because it is the best way of getting information straight from the people making the game, and because Sukhoi.ru is inaccessible for many of us due to the language barrier. If Luthier & the team posted on the Ubi forums, I expect most of us would be there instead. The only beta patch links posted on the Ubi forums that I can see have been users linking to this forum, not dev posts - so for now the Ubi forums are 'useful' only for user chat about the game, not finding out actual info on progress or other technical issues. If the dev team stop posting here too, the game will die off completely - as very few will be willing to wait in the dark for the myriad technical bugs and problems to be fixed, not knowing if a fix will even happen.

When/if the US release hits this weekend, we're going to see the moaning increase tenfold as they go through all the same crap we've had since release. If the dev team couldn't cope with the 'negativity' before now, come Monday it'll be ten times worse.

From a personal standpoint, if the devs do act like children and refuse to provide at least some information on their progress, I for one will never play CloD again - because to release a game in this state, followed by several patches that in most cases break as much as they fix (if user reports are accurate), and then to just clam up because people are angry is the very height of stupidity and arrogance. I'll have no dealings with a company that refuses to communicate with its customers, or one that slinks off and hides when the going gets tough - especially when the problems are almost entirely of their own making.

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Old 07-15-2011, 02:58 PM
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Do not be surprised if all updates will go through official channels only from now on (which are UBI and Steam). Luthier's goodwill including Meet the Team update was perceived with too much negativity on these forums. .
That's a lame excuse, if true.

There are obviously quite a few outspoken whiners, but also at least as many hardcore supporters who lavish praise when due.
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Old 07-15-2011, 03:25 PM
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Do not be surprised if all updates will go through official channels only from now on (which are UBI and Steam). Luthier's goodwill including Meet the Team update was perceived with too much negativity on these forums. The same happened at sukhoi.ru forums back in 2002 when Oleg stopped posting there after discussion became negative instead of constructive.

1C is the publisher for Russia only. UBI is payed by you for providing support and communication in the rest of the world.
Rubbish. If 1c don't want to promote their own games outside Russia why do they have an English forum up? CoD is their baby, not Ubi's, and they need to keep it alive.
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Old 07-15-2011, 03:35 PM
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Do not be surprised if all updates will go through official channels only from now on (which are UBI and Steam). Luthier's goodwill including Meet the Team update was perceived with too much negativity on these forums. The same happened at sukhoi.ru forums back in 2002 when Oleg stopped posting there after discussion became negative instead of constructive.

1C is the publisher for Russia only. UBI is payed by you for providing support and communication in the rest of the world.
Did Ilya tell you that or is it your personal opinion only?
Financial suicide if true.
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Old 07-15-2011, 04:07 PM
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Do not be surprised if all updates will go through official channels only from now on (which are UBI and Steam). Luthier's goodwill including Meet the Team update was perceived with too much negativity on these forums. The same happened at sukhoi.ru forums back in 2002 when Oleg stopped posting there after discussion became negative instead of constructive.

1C is the publisher for Russia only. UBI is payed by you for providing support and communication in the rest of the world.
Ah right i see, so because of problems that make some paying customers unhappy, we all get ignored and have to suffer even more making the 1C forums a complete waste of 1C's cash pot? LOL

In another thread you were saying the reason why they didnt communicate was because UBI are paid to do it and 1C dont have the money to do so, well this seems that by ignoring customers they will only be set to loose more fans and in turn then more money.

I hope your logic is wrong. For CoD's Sake.

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Old 07-15-2011, 01:51 PM
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Good. Let's start with yours.
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