Even I am going negative now.

[Lixma]

Originally Posted by carguy_

Yeah, you turned negative. Now what? Are you going to keep coming back with a "Luthier sucks" thread once in a while like the rest of the idiots?
Or maybe you have a LIFE outside the pc? Huh? You really think this helps ANYONE?
I gotta say - some of you guys are beyond pathethic. So much negativity over this game? Realy worth it? Really sad people.

stop now u hypnotised die hard fan, Im sick of you whining like a little boy, about valid complaints and performance reports from ppl who have experience in testing software, hardware and beta testing!

I could put up with all the problems this game as to offer, but what I don't accept is the blasé attitude of the Dev's, they have not even acknowledged let alone thank Insuber or Furbs for their bug reporting efforts, they appear to not even read these forums and if they are doing so they are missing a very clear message 'COMMUNICATE WITH US'.

We purchased your game that is very badly broken, we are trying to help you fix it but your silence is driving people away in droves, is this what you want Luthier?


Oh and Carguy we are all happy that you love this broken game, but we have far higher standards than you obviously, I can only imagine that you are new to simulations/gaming and you simply didn't know what to expect, but for us online squadron veterans we prefer to fly with sound.

[Bewolf]

Originally Posted by Tree_UK

I could put up with all the problems this game as to offer, but what I don't accept is the blasé attitude of the Dev's, they have not even acknowledged let alone thank Insuber or Furbs for their bug reporting efforts, they appear to not even read these forums and if they are doing so they are missing a very clear message 'COMMUNICATE WITH US'.

We purchased your game that is very badly broken, we are trying to help you fix it but your silence is driving people away in droves, is this what you want Luthier?


Oh and Carguy we are all happy that you love this broken game, but we have far higher standards than you obviously, I can only imagine that you are new to simulations/gaming and you simply didn't know what to expect, but for us online squadron veterans we prefer to fly with sound.

Usually I do not share's carguys hostility, but this is one of those posts that makes me understand why he gets riled up.

You prefer to fly with sound? Who would have thought.
If you were an old timer IL2 vet like you claimed you would know that Maddox games cares for their customers and releases patches and free planes, maps and other ugrades years after intial release. Instead on this forum these very same guys get flamed for not talking enough. Seriously, if I were Luther I'd say, XXXX, eventually. I can more then imagine that team has enough stress already. This is a rather small group of devs and they try hard to please a very, very demanding community. If they merely wanted to make money they would have never gone into the Sim business in the first place.

I should mention, after ten years of IL2 I am an avid fanboy and more then willing to give the devs the credit and trust they deserve after those years, especially if you compare their conduct to other game developers.

Originally Posted by Bewolf

Usually I do not share's carguys hostility, but this is one of those posts that makes me understand why he gets riled up.

You prefer to fly with sound? Who would have thought.
If you were an old timer IL2 vet like you claimed you would know that Maddox games cares for their customers and releases patches and free planes, maps and other ugrades years after intial release. Instead on this forum these very same guys get flamed for not talking enough. Seriously, if I were Luther I'd say, XXXX, eventually. I can more then imagine that team has enough stress already. This is a rather small group of devs and they try hard to please a very, very demanding community. If they merely wanted to make money they would have never gone into the Sim business in the first place.

I should mention, after ten years of IL2 I am an avid fanboy and more then willing to give the devs the credit and trust they deserve after those years, especially if you compare their conduct to other game developers.

Oleg is no more...in CLOD dev...and most of the guys from original il2 team, face it...thats the reason we have this circus. Im jusy sorry i fell for their advertising and with Oleg popping out from time to time like he is in the team...for real

Originally Posted by Bewolf

Usually I do not share's carguys hostility, but this is one of those posts that makes me understand why he gets riled up.

You prefer to fly with sound? Who would have thought.
If you were an old timer IL2 vet like you claimed you would know that Maddox games cares for their customers and releases patches and free planes, maps and other ugrades years after intial release. Instead on this forum these very same guys get flamed for not talking enough. Seriously, if I were Luther I'd say, XXXX, eventually. I can more then imagine that team has enough stress already. This is a rather small group of devs and they try hard to please a very, very demanding community. If they merely wanted to make money they would have never gone into the Sim business in the first place.

I should mention, after ten years of IL2 I am an avid fanboy and more then willing to give the devs the credit and trust they deserve after those years, especially if you compare their conduct to other game developers.

The stress the 'Team' are under is self inflicted, nothing to do with any of the paying customers. Regarding making money are you seriously suggesting that the IL2 series never made any money? OM games 'used' to support their customers this is correct, whether this will continue now he as departed from all things 'IL2' related remains to be seen. The fact that he has never posted here or anywhere else since the release of CLOD suggests that he has washed his hands entirely of the fans/the project.

[jimbop]

Originally Posted by Bewolf

I should mention, after ten years of IL2 I am an avid fanboy and more then willing to give the devs the credit and trust they deserve after those years, especially if you compare their conduct to other game developers.

I'm willing to give the devs the credit and trust they deserve too! Not impressed by the release strategy... On a more positive note, though, I had another look at Luthier's roadmap after JG52Krupi continually going on about it. Quite impressed with the progress in hindsight.

[carguy_]

Originally Posted by Tree_UK

Oh and Carguy we are all happy that you love this broken game, but we have far higher standards than you obviously, I can only imagine that you are new to simulations/gaming and you simply didn't know what to expect, but for us online squadron veterans we prefer to fly with sound.

The difference between you and me is that I acknowledge this game with all its faults and don`t dwell too much about it. As of today I have about 5 other video game titles which I play, given that I can`t spend more than say 11 hours weekly on gaming. I understand that you require a playable, fixed game once you pay for it. The GOLD status indeed says the game is ok for a release. And you indeed have the right to feel bad about it. But really, we know all the bugs already, we know this forum is slowly dying (game is also dying) and all we have to do is wait. Now how longer do you plan on whining on the same old stuff? Wouldn`t it be better if we didn`t create additional stress for the team? Don`t you think they already got what they deserved?But they`re saying thei`yre going to fix it. And they ARE fixing it. So what more do you want?

The second sentence clearly shows you don`t know anything you`re talking about. I`m the old IL2 guy and I saw the whole IL2 evolution from the start. The very same thing now happens with CloD. It keeps me calm and preserves my confidence in 1C dev team. The first fruit of three patches and new content indeed proves my point. I knew EXACTLY what to expect with CloD as I bought it on April the 5th, days after the first user reviews came by to be read. Which is why I don`t think any of you didn`t posses the same information before buying. And if you did buy it not knowing what you buy, then I rest my case Your Honor.

I have approximately 500 online war sorties under my belt.

[ZaltysZ]

I find it very funny how first videos of Russian release were met with so much flaming on this forum, that even Jason from 777 had to write explicitly that no one from or related to 777 is trying to discredit CoD. Where is that spirit now?

[SG1_Lud]

Originally Posted by Tree_UK

I could put up with all the problems this game as to offer, but what I don't accept is the blasé attitude of the Dev's, they have not even acknowledged let alone thank Insuber or Furbs for their bug reporting efforts, they appear to not even read these forums and if they are doing so they are missing a very clear message 'COMMUNICATE WITH US'.

We purchased your game that is very badly broken, we are trying to help you fix it but your silence is driving people away in droves, is this what you want Luthier?


Oh and Carguy we are all happy that you love this broken game, but we have far higher standards than you obviously, I can only imagine that you are new to simulations/gaming and you simply didn't know what to expect, but for us online squadron veterans we prefer to fly with sound.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOkgy...e_gdata_player