IL2 and Sound Modding

[csThor]

Originally Posted by Insuber

Gentlemen,

As a matter of fact I didn't see a strong message from UBI or 1:C or Mr Oleg against modders.

To answer this I simply quote Oleg here on this board.

Originally Posted by Oleg Maddox

I personally hate any hack that may damage fair online gameplay.

Source= http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthr...9844#post29844

The hacking of the code is by definition a threat to online security. It opened everything - and nowadays a laggy connection might result in someone being accused of cheating. Not the cheating per se is the problem - it's the suspicions that the hack roused because players can no longer be certain that everyone has the same settings.

Originally Posted by Insuber

On the contrary, evidence is that they at least tolerate mods in order to keep the game alive, and maybe more than this ... Moreover, the only UBI/Oleg forum posts I saw where either neutral or in favor of mods.

My sincere and friendly advise is to try to collect facts, instead of ignite like a rocket on the basis of assumptions ... this would also preserve a spirit of community and avoid dividing ourselves in factions.

You either missed the post I quoted above or you're making the very assumptions you accuse others to make. You interpret the lack of a grand statement as a quiet endorsement of someone hacking the code? Well ... let me make another assumption about your assumption: You say that, because it fits your agenda. So - did I hit the bullseye?

According to what I know about Maddox Games they are up to their noses in work for SOW, Oleg included, so they don't have time to populate some online message boards and cater to the information detox of some flight sim fans. The fact is for them Il-2 is history already and SoW is the future. You have three guesses which one has more priority.

[GOZR]

Each their own believes .. Now think about this when connecting to HL i see 85 % of peoples connected to open cockpits + icons on etc.. servers... i found this personally insulting and outrageous.. but some peoples like to use this software to fly open pits since they use and did built their own at home, this make sens but.. just looking around with nothing to block your views or able to see icons with tags on it to me it's worse than the mods by far.

I'm for the closed pit no icons and full FUUULL engine management.. is it a sim or not ?
Now
Lucky we are to have a Host settings controls... isn't it? we just need some kind of controls for this problemOnline I guaranty one big overnight success for this product and a longer life for IL2 if this is made. The best of both world.. This will in one case satisfy th purist files guys and the others.. This will make members coexist in peace and a lots of fun for all, and maybe some mod will be able to bring IL2 to a higher Simulator status.

[Thrud]

i installed satellite radio in may car. that will anger the anti modders of the others that own a car like mine.

[carguy_]

Originally Posted by Thrud

i installed satellite radio in may car. that will anger the anti modders of the others that own a car like mine.

No problem, just be aware that some modders might just believe your car looks better with a different color/rims/exaust pipes/windows/bumpers/brakes/interior and take it without your permission and change it via their likings.You won`t have a voice here. I`m sure you will be satisfied.

[GOZR]

Well all depend you can't touch the engine even a special chip... nothing.. there is the guaranty void if you do they boot you out.... ... remind me a bit the Host settings lock.. isn't it or even the police for this FM mod for cars on the road.. isn't it?

[Insuber]

Originally Posted by csThor

To answer this I simply quote Oleg here on this board.



Source= http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthr...9844#post29844

The hacking of the code is by definition a threat to online security. It opened everything - and nowadays a laggy connection might result in someone being accused of cheating. Not the cheating per se is the problem - it's the suspicions that the hack roused because players can no longer be certain that everyone has the same settings.



You either missed the post I quoted above or you're making the very assumptions you accuse others to make. You interpret the lack of a grand statement as a quiet endorsement of someone hacking the code? Well ... let me make another assumption about your assumption: You say that, because it fits your agenda. So - did I hit the bullseye?

According to what I know about Maddox Games they are up to their noses in work for SOW, Oleg included, so they don't have time to populate some online message boards and cater to the information detox of some flight sim fans. The fact is for them Il-2 is history already and SoW is the future. You have three guesses which one has more priority.

Dear csThor,

I was thinking exactly at that very post from Mr Oleg when I did my statement. The accent is put on "online cheating", not on modding per se. Moreover there are clues, found elsewhere, that modding (not haking, nor cheating) isn't disliked by the game owners, for the reasons that I tried to expose. Your hypothesis to explain the lack of a formal stance by UBI/Oleg/1C (no time, other priorities) doesn't sound very convincing, sorry to say that. It just takes the time of a post, 10 minutes.

As far as my agenda, in case you're interested, it is made by one simple point: the pleasure to discuss with clever people on facts and opinions about a game that I greatly appreciate.

For the rest it's enough to say that I play 100% online, and in servers with anticheat = 2, that is *no mods allowed * ... and I never saw strange things happening over there.

Best regards,
Insuber

PS: I deliberately ignore the rather tedious personal attack, it's much better to focus on ideas and opinions and keep the discussion on an higher level