A tool that could help evaluate BOB COD objectively

[Ze-Jamz]

Ok 2 things:

I understand your point but this isn't just about an issue with 'what do I need to run this game properly' so everyone can see what they need to upgrade, it's also and mainly about performance of the actual game and the fact through their own admission isn't optimised so until we all know that IS the case I'm not sure how it would benefit anyone?

Put it this way, if by looking at someone score/setup etc I then determine and 'think' it's the HD5770 1gig i need to get my game running like 'his' THEN they decide to patch it which sorts out a massive issue/leak which would of seen my old GFX card work ok...id be a Lil pi**ed off.

Let's just hope they sort out that issue then further threads and ideas like this would be alot 'more' helpful to the community...the idea would be sound if the game was running how it is supposed to be and were trying to get an idea on what hardware everyone needs to run it to XX level but this isn't the case....yet

Also appologies to Orpheus while im posting...didn't mean to tell you to shut up dude, was having a bad night, week, actualy.....month come to think of it

*shakes the hand*

S

[nearmiss]

Originally Posted by Ze-Jamz

Ok 2 things:

I understand your point but this isn't just about an issue with 'what do I need to run this game properly' so everyone can see what they need to upgrade, it's also and mainly about performance of the actual game and the fact through their own admission isn't optimised so until we all know that IS the case I'm not sure how it would benefit anyone?

Put it this way, if by looking at someone score/setup etc I then determine and 'think' it's the HD5770 1gig i need to get my game running like 'his' THEN they decide to patch it which sorts out a massive issue/leak which would of seen my old GFX card work ok...id be a Lil pi**ed off.

Let's just hope they sort out that issue then further threads and ideas like this would be alot 'more' helpful to the community...the idea would be sound if the game was running how it is supposed to be and were trying to get an idea on what hardware everyone needs to run it to XX level but this isn't the case....yet

Also appologies to Orpheus while im posting...didn't mean to tell you to shut up dude, was having a bad night, week, actualy.....month come to think of it

*shakes the hand*

S

I appreciate having the information. I can make my own choices about what to do about it. That's one of the things I have a brain for... to evaluate information.

It's just a simple tool that might help someone get a feel for what they need, and provide some feedback to the dev that certain systems are lousy with the latest release or vs v.

In my own case, since I have a base score of 5.9 and all my subscores are above 7. I will probably first look into raising the one low subscore item, which is my HDD data transfer rate. In fact, I may do that without any preconceived notion of improving the BOB COD performance, but just the overall improvement of my system.

[LoBiSoMeM]

Please... It's 2011...

Do like Half-Life: self benchmark tool with upload of hardware specs over internet to the devs... Isn't so hard to do.

Or look at Resident Evil 5 benchmark... We have fixed and variable benchmark tools...

This topic, sorry to say, is near useless. This sim still in beta stage. Maybe it's time do devs assume that and invest some time in benchmark tools and uploading of user specs.

We are all beta testers now. And we pay to be beta testers, we are crazy. Give us good tools to do our job, not some poor fixed topic to report bugs.

[Orpheus]

Originally Posted by Ze-Jamz

Ok 2 things:

I understand your point but this isn't just about an issue with 'what do I need to run this game properly' so everyone can see what they need to upgrade, it's also and mainly about performance of the actual game and the fact through their own admission isn't optimised so until we all know that IS the case I'm not sure how it would benefit anyone?

Put it this way, if by looking at someone score/setup etc I then determine and 'think' it's the HD5770 1gig i need to get my game running like 'his' THEN they decide to patch it which sorts out a massive issue/leak which would of seen my old GFX card work ok...id be a Lil pi**ed off.

Let's just hope they sort out that issue then further threads and ideas like this would be alot 'more' helpful to the community...the idea would be sound if the game was running how it is supposed to be and were trying to get an idea on what hardware everyone needs to run it to XX level but this isn't the case....yet

Also appologies to Orpheus while im posting...didn't mean to tell you to shut up dude, was having a bad night, week, actualy.....month come to think of it

*shakes the hand*

S

That's quite alright mate, was a bit frustrated last night myself. Water under the bridge - we both want to help, just differ in our methods. Appreciate you taking the time to apologise, and for what it's worth I'm sorry too.

I do see your point re the actual game engine having issues that may or may not be solved with hardware replacement. The change in performance since release to current date exemplifies that side of your argument and I do agree that hardware is not the only issue affecting the game.

I think Nearmiss summed it up well. The subscores with attached hardware description are only a simple indication of rough performance, but even that is better than nothing and may help the devs - if it turns out that people with huge cpus are struggling while older cpus are doing fine, then it could indicate a problem in the way the game utilises multiple cores, or something like that. Either way, the information is useful. But the game engine itself needs a lot of improvement - hopefully this will help them do that.

@Timberwolf - the reason we both have 5.9 is simply that 5.9 is the highest hardware score for a non SSD hard disk, and the final score is always limited by the lowest rating. The final score is less relevant than the subscores (which only reach a theoretical maximum of 8, which explains why the jump from a GTX470 at 7.8 to a GTX 580 at 7.9, in mazex's case doesn't look like that big of a leap - the numbers just don't go any higher at the current time). It's not perfect, but it's a start, and because the hardware used is listed (in the complex view) we can at least get a rough idea of performance across a range of systems.

Good to see the thread calming down (mostly), and hopefully going back on topic.


This link from AARPRazorbacks has a little explanation in it, which might help:
http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showpos...8&postcount=58