A good idea on the performance issues

[JG52Krupi]

Originally Posted by pupo162

how would you know you have a lesser performer aircraift??? would you waste 10 mins of oyur life doing a speed test over the base? even tough teh speed is altered by the climeteric conditions?

maybe 3% is a litle bit to much, 1% or maybe 2 would semm more proper reducing or increasing somehting like 5 to 10 kmh.

It takes 3 mins to find out the speed of the aircraft at a certain height.

Damn at 1000 my aircraft only going x I'm going to land to try and get y.

[ATAG_Doc]

No way Jose!

[pupo162]

Originally Posted by JG52Krupi

It takes 3 mins to find out the speed of the aircraft at a certain height.

Damn at 1000 my aircraft only going x I'm going to land to try and get y.

anyway, in coops you cna go ahead and land if you dont like your plane. I dont get why wouldnt want this so bad, if it could exist, i shurly would be optional.

so basically what you're saying is that we can't have a realistic feature because it would be used as an advantage point? How sad is that?

Sometimes I wonder why some people even bothers with this sim and doesn't go for the arcade versions..

[JG52Krupi]

Originally Posted by Sternjaeger

so basically what you're saying is that we can't have a realistic feature because it would be used as an advantage point? How sad is that?

Sometimes I wonder why some people even bothers with this sim and doesn't go for the arcade versions..

Look mate I said I like the idea but you have to take into account everything and to get around the problems I mentioned you would have to have a low chance of getting the good quality aircraft or have a very low increase which would beg the question of if the developers should even bother with it.

Originally Posted by JG52Krupi

Look mate I said I like the idea but you have to take into account everything and to get around the problems I mentioned you would have to have a low chance of getting the good quality aircraft or have a very low increase which would beg the question of if the developers should even bother with it.

stuff like performance changing according to engine hours, wear and tear, random engine or magneto/pump failure should all be there. The idea of the percentage is just to find a balance in the alleged lack of accuracy. You wouldn't know what plane you have, whether it performs as it's supposed to or not, just like in real life, and this could iron out the "perfomance to chart" issues in a compromise form that might find everybody happy. We all would have the same fair chance of a failure or a particularly performing / not performing plane (within minimum percentage of course, which would be so marginal not to make it worth to restart or do any other silly choice).

I don't see why you guys immediately point at it as a whine/cheat factor. It's not the mentality that would help us develop further. Whiners can be politely asked to either take the rule or find another game (since we're aiming at accuracy here), while cheats can be solved by giving a limited number of planes available, which you have to take care of and manage like the real thing, instead of yanking it in the air like an air racer.

[JG52Krupi]

Your asking a lot from the developers and if you can't see the difference why even bother with it in the first place.

Regarding the whiners being asked to leave politely AHHAhGhrgghh.. Cough.. Splutter... Ah ah ahem... Take a look at some of the other threads which contain whiners that have no intention of giving MG a rest

Originally Posted by JG52Krupi

Your asking a lot from the developers and if you can't see the difference why even bother with it in the first place.

Regarding the whiners being asked to leave politely AHHAhGhrgghh.. Cough.. Splutter... Ah ah ahem... Take a look at some of the other threads which contain whiners that have no intention of giving MG a rest

I don't know if that's a lot, but anyways..

Whiners can suck my throttle, I think that once a software house decides on the way to proceed and justifies the choices, setting a benchmark and a position in the market (accurate sim vs not so accurate), then it's either their way or the out way.

[JG4_Helofly]

Wow! I didn't expect this

The idea I had behind this, was that people often complaned about very little performance differences between aircraft. Especially online. The reason is simple: If you have a plane which is, let's say 2km/h, faster then your ennemy, he won't run away because sooner or later you will catch him. And this happens quite often online because you don't have to worry about fuel, getting in a dangerous situation, leaving your wingman alone, damaging your engine etc. If everything fails: hit "refly".
That's why random performance (+ or - 3%) could bring a little more realism to the game because planes with little difference in perf. would be seen as equal. Like in RL. In the game, a very slight difference is considered an advantage because you know you have these 2km/h no matter what.
Btw. these 3% where considered to be acceptable in RL if I remember correctly.

Of course we need to have RL performance as a base for this calculation. So one step at a time, but I think it would help the game in the future and calm down the FM discussions over ridiculously slight differences.