i give up

[Strike]

I have to say, that from an economic perspective, the comparison to buying a new car is major bogus.

First of all, and most importantly, a car is something that constantly looses value. If you so much as sit in a new car, it practically looses value. After a year, you can probably remove about 12000Euros of value from it.

Secondly, a car is nowhere as cheap as a computer game. It's simply not worth getting that worked up over if you're not 100% satisfied, especially WHEN:

The game can only get better, and run better with time..

Find a car that does that (mechanically speaking, while some exclusive cars age like wine, most cars age like milk)

[Feuerfalke]

Originally Posted by Strike

First of all, and most importantly, a car is something that constantly looses value. If you so much as sit in a new car, it practically looses value.

Ever tried selling a game that you activated on your account?

Secondly, a car is nowhere as cheap as a computer game. It's simply not worth getting that worked up over if you're not 100% satisfied, especially WHEN:...

If a car has a problem, it's also returned and fixed.

The game can only get better, and run better with time..

If roads, tires and fuel would be improved in the same speed computers are, you'd also get a lot faster the longer you have your car. That we have reached a point where transportation can't get much more efficient doesn't mean they were always this way.

[Strike]

Originally Posted by Feuerfalke

Ever tried selling a game that you activated on your account?.

No, but you can sell your account.

Originally Posted by Feuerfalke

If a car has a problem, it's also returned and fixed.

Good thing is, the game has a problem, and incase you havn't noticed, it's being fixed, without having to return it.

Originally Posted by Feuerfalke

If roads, tires and fuel would be improved in the same speed computers are, you'd also get a lot faster the longer you have your car. That we have reached a point where transportation can't get much more efficient doesn't mean they were always this way.

Well, I'd rather say your computer is your car in this case, that ages etc. The roads are your games, a road is being built here, and it's long and enjoyable. It's just full of "under construction" signs everywhere. If you fail to see those signs, you might be in for a nasty surprise.

[Robin2k7]

wel fore now i be patient ....not more i can do !!

[flyingblind]

I really don't get all this whinging and complaining about the game. Before it was released everyone was demanding to know when it would be out and begging to be allowed to be beta testers. Now it's out everyone is complaining it's not ready and how they object to being beta testers! By paying a relatively small amount for the privilege you have no doubt kept the project afloat and brought the time and resources for the first stage to be completed. It is not like you will be charged again for the finished game as updates arrive free and automatically. It was pretty obvious from the suddenly rushed and botched release that the game probably wasn't ready and all the preview videos and screen shots showed that game play wasn't smooth and fps were dire. Also the landscape and it's colour and the water etc were hardly closely guarded secrets. Plus there were enough doubts and misgivings aired on this forum before release.

I know there is still a lot to be desired but already the improvements have made the game vastly better. My system is only mid range and yet CloD runs perfectly smoothly and with fps mostly in the 40s and 50s and above. In fact CloD runs with the same or even slightly better fps than UP3 on my system. I am not sure about online sound issues as I have only been on line a few times but I didn't notice anything amiss. I have all my settings at absolute highest with everything turned on except for mirrors which are useless and cost a good 5 fps or so. I get no graphical issues and even the landscape colours are better.

I do not know why I am not getting the problems others seem to have. My system specs are below. I run the game on its own SATA drive with its own O/S. I use Game Booster. I use the Config files I am given without messing around with them and that is it.

Even with so much more to be done on the game, hopefully before US release, the game is still just so much better than the old IL2 series in one overiding aspect which is the impression it gives of 'really being there' which surely is what a sim is all about.

[baronWastelan]

I do not know why I am not getting the problems others seem to have.

I would guess, because you know how to setup a PC properly.

[grunge]

I have buyed it, because i have all old releases from day 1 of the original sturmovik. It's now part of the collection.

I tired it just with the latest update, and looking at the state it is, i really don't want to know how it was at the release :/

Sure nothing is perfect at a release, the old IL2 wasn't either, but it stayed playable and enjoyable for me all the time at my current rig at those days. With all patches it grew bigger and bigger, new planes, maps ect.

I really looking forward to CloD that it will get fixed, till tis point it will be just a sort of a tech demo. I don't want to complain, others did it also, but i just smiled as i heard the outside sound of the 109... The propellor is just animated from the sides, from other angles it's looking very odd to me. When i fire the machine guns, form the outside the effects are messed up, the muzzle flash appears just at particular angles or are completley missing. I'm not epilleptic i switched the option (my goodness...) off.

I enjoyed the clickeable cockpit very much, and the landside looked beautyful.
Patience is a key-word there, the potential is there also. Let's see, and hope that we'll smile about the complaining post one day, because the sim will be evolved to a product like Sturmo 46 was, and IS.
Go on Luthier and Team, do what you're have to, and thanks to Oleg for his magnificient work that i could fly the il2 seriesfrom day 1!

[Robin2k7]

Originally Posted by flyingblind

I really don't get all this whinging and complaining about the game.

Whining ? i complain what ever i want ....not because i like to complain but it would be nice to have a nice smooth running game .

if i don't like it i don't like it !!!

[raaaid]

yes but you know the reason why people makes this neagtive thread its their vengeance:

im not pleased so i try to sink you by influencing people not to buy the game

weather they know it or not thats the intention of the games crap threads

[iceblink_luck]

Originally Posted by flyingblind

I really don't get all this whinging and complaining about the game.

It's really simple, people 'whinge' as you put it, becasue they shelled out money on a borderline unplayable piece of software - which ultimately is detrimental to the genre as a whole - your POV is something like 0.01% of the general public's POV - most will buy, try it, find it's not all it's cracked up to be and ditch it and move swiftly onto something else - it really is that simple.

What's not 'to get'?

Personally, I bought it, tried it, and moved onto better things - I suspect that's what most do.