the prop pitch of the 109 has only 3 positions now

[Ze-Jamz]

Originally Posted by raaaid

theres a conspiracy to make the spit uber in all sims

actually the spit turns better than the 109 if both pilots are unexperienced

in case of experten the 109 out turns the spit
the spit is easier to handlethe 109 performs better

LOL trust me mate the SPit is far from 'Uber' in this Sim

If the Spit in game performed as it should the 109 will NOT out turn it, not in this life or another

In a stall fight with slats extended Yes the spit would fall out the sky..But if your saying a spit and a 109 turning generally with both pilots equal experience in the cockpits...id have to disagree with your statement

In game now i would agree however due to the Spit1/1a not having the correct power to maintain airspeed/airflow over the wings

[Ze-Jamz]

Definitely alot harder to use BnZ tactics now with the PP as it is..As said already it takes too long to adjust so keeping optimal performance is very tricky now in the 109

[raaaid]

i would say out of nothing so i would take my opinion as drunken nonsense:

the 109 burns energy to 220kph

the spit burns energy to 260kph

on a turn

so inesperince dogfight the spit will win for turning a optimum speed while 109 didn know more is less

but an expert will keep at an ideal turning speed and defeat the spit

do you really think a spit would beat an f16 in a dogfight?

well take it for a climbing spiral

you can do that with the spit ii now

hell why do people still fly 109 on aeroquake when they can be uber?

hero worship?

well they are heros after all when spits dominate the virtual skies the dark powers of the world will have impose their view on this matter

well just to understand this people im going to aeroquaeke and take a 109

[Ze-Jamz]

Originally Posted by raaaid

i would say out of nothing so i would take my opinion as drunken nonsense:

the 109 burns energy to 220kph

the spit burns energy to 260kph

on a turn

so inesperince dogfight the spit will win for turning a optimum speed while 109 didn know more is less

but an expert will keep at an ideal turning speed and defeat the spit

do you really think a spit would beat an f16 in a dogfight?

well take it for a climbing spiral

you can do that with the spit ii now

hell why do people still fly 109 on aeroquake when they can be uber?

hero worship?

well they are heros after all when spits dominate the virtual skies the dark powers of the world will have impose their view on this matter

well just to understand this people im going to aeroquaeke and take a 109

And an expert in a spit would know when to use flaps and where/how much trim to use..I think a 'more' experienced 109 pilot would maybe out turn a Spit using your method of course but that wasnt what your orig point was..

People still fly the 109 in the quake server because most people that fly the 109 dont like the Spit...The K/D from the more experienced 109 pilots has reduced alot since they introduced the SpitII as well as i see some pilots who usually fly 109's in SpitII's..

The match up evens out because the the Spit has the correct Power..not so easy to outclimb or extend for the 109 pilots especially with the PP how it is

go and HF

Could we please put the 109vsspit discussion into another thread and stick to topic which is the porked prop pitch of the 109.

[raaaid]

well just tried it and its not so bad, the pitch

[Pluto]

...looks like every patch that is released in order to fix something, also screws up something that was working all right before.

So there will be another patch that fixes what the previous patch has f.....-up.
That new patch then will of course alo f....-up something else that has worked so far ok. So we will need another patch to fix that again
and so on and on and on, ....
Nice way to drive someone into madness,....

[Tiger27]

Originally Posted by Ze-Jamz

Definitely alot harder to use BnZ tactics now with the PP as it is..As said already it takes too long to adjust so keeping optimal performance is very tricky now in the 109

As it is you can adjust for the dive but then your pitch is wrong for the pullout and there is know way to adjust it quickly enough, it is annoying as it seemed right before the hotfix apart from the visuals and as Redroach said how hard would it have been to test this, I mean it is not hardware specific, it's wrong for everyone, they really need to shake up there QA, and patch management, otherwise they are just wasting there time fixing the fixes.