HE-111 is a glider

[Redroach]

yeah, "a very long time" is certainly regarded as a most legitimate measurement nowadays (see various other threads). This sentence surely deserves a major investigation of the whole development team! Quick!

[jf1981]

Originally Posted by Redroach

yeah, "a very long time" is certainly regarded as a most legitimate measurement nowadays (see various other threads). This sentence surely deserves a major investigation of the whole development team! Quick!

Go on measure for yourself, it's simply not realistic.

Report back the results if you want to show the way. Have'nt done that yet, I'll wait till the games get patched to a level where it needs fine-tune before starting to post comments again. There is simply too much work to do on the sim now. I think they'll be dealing with all sorts of things so in few weeks / months time, we'll see certainly quite big difference with now.

[Korn]

You're sending him to measure after you report it? Why didn't you measure it before reporting the issue? It's not hard, just feather your props and see how many km you can glide from 1km and you'll get the glide ratio. Fyi a modern sailplane easily tops 60.

The He111 should glide pretty damn well since it's got very big wings, in fact its wing area is over 50% bigger than say the B25, which is in fact heavier.

[jf1981]

I just mean to me it does not look like a normal behaviour thought I have not measured.

[KG26_Alpha]

Unfortunately........

Your post is typical of many others in the past regarding aircraft behaviour be it FM, DM or WP.

You could be right, but you will at least have to bring something here other than "its not normal" perhaps..... load out, weather, altitude, speed etc etc etc

No one for sure can say either way what's right and wrong regarding characteristics of particular aircraft in certain circumstances as there are too many variables attributing to different behaviour due to the flight conditions.

Lets just say someone using pure mathematics could "guesstimate" the glide slope and plot a chart.

But another "chart monkey" will come along to disprove it.

Meanwhile...........

Here's some He111 wings minus control surfaces till the next update comes along...........

[jf1981]

flying low (100 m alt) without prop, full load, loosing speed below 200 km/h very slowly, exact measurement I did'nt take note.
Kept flying few hundreds of meter.

Honestly I expected it to fall down, I'm surprised to see it gliding so well.

KG Alpha, I'd expect more understanding from you, I'm just astonished by the HE-111, did I mention something else ? I'm not policeman reporting any fault of the game. Just mentionned I was wondering why that happens, be it normal I would just notice a remarkably well flying aeroplane, nothing wrong.

[Kongo-Otto]

Originally Posted by jf1981

flying low (100 m alt) without prop, full load, loosing speed below 200 km/h very slowly, exact measurement I did'nt take note.
Kept flying few hundreds of meter.

Honestly I expected it to fall down, I'm surprised to see it gliding so well.

KG Alpha, I'd expect more understanding from you, I'm just astonished by the HE-111, did I mention something else ? I'm not policeman reporting any fault of the game. Just mentionned I was wondering why that happens, be it normal I would just notice a remarkably well flying aeroplane, nothing wrong.

Well reporting anything is the source of proper testing.
Well did yo mentioned anything else? Yes you did!

See here:

Originally Posted by jf1981

Hi
Its gliding aptitude is unusually good, I expect a FM issue. It goes like a bird without any power.

Well you mentioned a FM Issue without anykind of proof or proper test.
Thats Kindergarten Talk at least.
Now go back and watch Ice Road Truckers!

[jf1981]

HE-111 is indeed the best one in this aspect of all planes I tested. Meanwhile I did some measurements, you could find that in a post I updated a bit up to this one.

Regards

[bongodriver]

col123 is quite right, how did anyone deduce 'big' wings = good gliding performance? every sailplane I know has high aspect ratio long and skinny wings, sounds to me like the 111 has an FM bug if it is gliding so well, those big wings should create huge amounts of induced drag.

[Furio]

Originally Posted by bongodriver

col123 is quite right, how did anyone deduce 'big' wings = good gliding performance? every sailplane I know has high aspect ratio long and skinny wings, sounds to me like the 111 has an FM bug if it is gliding so well, those big wings should create huge amounts of induced drag.

He111 wing is not that “big”. It’s aspect ratio is 5.9, the Bf109 being pretty close at 6.