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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

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Old 05-06-2011, 06:49 PM
SsSsSsSsSnake SsSsSsSsSnake is offline
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Hi Snake, and no offense intended, but I have flown with online squads using only full real, on and off for the last 5 years of il2, I did buy WOP after a break from flying (working away from home for 16 months on and off) as I thought a change would be good, Played it for half a day and never looked at it since, something I would give my 9 year old boy to play with to teach him the basics of flight dynamics. Also downloaded ROF demo and gave that a shot but couldnt get into it, though that may have been more to the limited game play with the demo than the game itself. Way things are going might have to try it again.

PS, will gladly meet up with you online one day mate to have a fly around as your wingman, you can show me the sights of Kent. S`
~S~ Sauf
No offence taken i wasnt trying to say WOP is a better simulator in the FM etc just that it looks more like Kent to me than does COD and I really want COD to be a good immersive game but the land colour and layout spoils the immersion whereas when im flying over kent in WOP with Trackir it looks more like the kent Countryside. thanks for the offer of winging but I think the roles should be the other way round.
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Old 05-06-2011, 05:52 PM
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Are you now complaining that CoD trees don't have enough branches?

Look, I have had enough. The post with the WoP screenshot, CoD screenshot, and actual photo pretty much says it all. If you expect the CoD devs to make that game look more like WoP in any way, you are not going to be happy. WoP looks like crap. If you like it, that's great, but anyone looking at that post realizes immediately that CoD is closer to the real photo. If you are counting tree branches, then you are just desperate, and there is no point to responding to you. If you have any other points you'd like to make, just look at page 47 of this thread. It is my response to anything further you have to say on this subject.
"Crap", "Puke", "Shit".
Maybe a good thing you're going to refrain from the debate.
I think the other poster (the one, like everyone else, not using spoilt-kid playground descriptions) has a very fair point though in that the FSAA & general unoptimization of COD is more to blame than the game design. Things are only going to get better.
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Old 05-06-2011, 05:56 PM
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"Crap", "Puke", "Shit".
Maybe a good thing you're going to refrain from the debate.
I think the other poster (the one, like everyone else, not using spoilt-kid playground descriptions) has a very fair point though in that the FSAA & general unoptimization of COD is more to blame than the game design. Things are only going to get better.
Hear hear, I said something along those lines 20 odd pages back...but then i got drunk and let his arrogance annoy me into retaliating.
High road well taken Hawk buddy.
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Old 05-06-2011, 05:57 PM
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BigPickle, I'm not ignoring you. I care deeply about every post you make. Deeply. It's just that my response to every one of your posts on this subject will not be changing. If you have anything further to say on this subject you will see my response on page 47 of this thread. I would never ignore you.
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Old 05-06-2011, 06:08 PM
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@ Dave - Wow thanks mate I'm so glad you care so deeply, I can finally rest at night in my bed knowing that you value my opinions so much you just have to tell me publicly.

C'mon i've probably got about 30 years more experience at sarcasam than you.

Why cant you understand no-one is trying to force you to change your opinion?
They, myself included just want the chance to talk about our own opinions without listening to childish insults because you dissagree.
I mean think about it, how would the Wings Of Prey devs feel hearing you trash their hard work? and yet you started this thread denouncing people who you think are doing the same to CoD, its just opinions mate, and everyone has em, being cross or vindictive because some peoples are different is a waste of effort.
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Old 05-06-2011, 06:45 PM
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I mean think about it, how would the Wings Of Prey devs feel hearing you trash their hard work? and yet you started this thread denouncing people who you think are doing the same to CoD, its just opinions mate, and everyone has em
If I thought they cared about my opinion I'd go to their message board and complain over there. I'm quite sure they don't care.

I'm equally convinced that the CoD devs don't care if you think that WoP looks better, or even if it includes hedges like WoP. I'm sure they would model the English farmland exactly if the average PC had the resources available. Since that is not the case, it still appears that they did a far better job than does WoP. It's more than just the tree spacing and hedges. See page 47.

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being cross or vindictive because some peoples are different is a waste of effort.
You need to tell that to the people who continue to whine about CoD. I'm not cross or vindictive at all. I'm looking forward to when it is released in the US.
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Old 05-06-2011, 05:45 PM
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What makes the difference here is the hedgerows.

But there hedgerows in the FMB

So I guess that hedgerows was canned from the map in the release cause the performance problems.

You guys should not forget that when IL2COD was launched it faced performance issues related the trees, and basically managing the objects in the map.
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Old 05-06-2011, 05:35 PM
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It does nothing of the sort. The CoD screenshot is virtually identical to the photo. The CoD "isolated trees" are blind WoP fanboyism. The same "isolated trees" exist in the WoP shot.
WOP FANBOYISM?????????? Read some my previous posts & you'll soon get a picture of my feelings toward the highly arcade, flat-as-a pancake WOP but the fact remains ... it looks better as a BoB sim environmentally. This is largely down to the fact that COD has to cope with such a huge theatre whereas the console-like arcade feel of WOP means it only has to draw miniscule theatres each time.
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Old 05-06-2011, 05:40 PM
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I live in and have travelled all over England and also own and play WOP,COD and ROF and it was the colour and lack of realistic English countryside hedgerows and Trees that spoilt the COD experience for me,otherwise its got the makings of a good game.
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Old 05-06-2011, 05:42 PM
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I live in and have travelled all over England and also own and play WOP,COD and ROF and it was the colour and lack of realistic English countryside hedgerows and Trees that spoilt the COD experience for me,otherwise its got the makings of a good game.
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