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Old 05-01-2011, 12:35 AM
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Thanks for the continued efforts. Since we don't have a live patch on Steam yet, i assume they are further tweaking things.

Would it be possible to have some clarification on the issue of Ati cards staying at low clock speeds? This has been improved for me with the last beta patch as it went from "desktop mode" 240Mhz up to 500Mhz when i'm in the sim, but it still won't go up to 850Mhz which is the maximum (non-overclocked) factory setting for my 4890. The difference is that it runs at 20-30 FPS at 500Mhz, while at 850Mhz it can easily go into the mid 50s.

The reason i'm asking is that maybe we could help resolve this faster. For example, is it something that will have to be patched in the sim to enable catalyst to recognize a game is being run and throttle up the GPU, or is it a driver issue and we're better off reporting it to Ati/AMD directly?

If any of you fellow with access to the Russian forums could tell us about any possible information on this issue it would be much appreciated

I used Ati tray tools to force the clock speeds to 850Mhz but i don't know what other settings to use (cooling fan? voltage? etc) to keep the GPU running stable.
I do get 50 FPS over most kinds of terrain, 25-30 over London and 20-25 in the Black Death track with the clocks set that way, but it ends up rebooting my PC after 40 minutes or so.

This doesn't happen in any other game where catalyst/drivers automatically runs the GPU at 850Mhz so i doubt it's an issue of overheating (GPU temps hover no higher than 60-65 degrees anyway), but i don't know what kind of other settings the drivers possibly change when throttling up the GPU.

Needless to say, seeing the improved performance when the GPU is running at the proper speed, i'm very eager to see a fix implemented so that we don't have to use manual GPU clock settings.

Enjoy your rest and keep up the good work when you come back to the office. I can certainly wait and have fun with what i currently have, i would just appreciate a bit of information on this, if any is available. Cheers
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Old 05-01-2011, 03:32 AM
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Thanks for the continued efforts. Since we don't have a live patch on Steam yet, i assume they are further tweaking things.

Would it be possible to have some clarification on the issue of Ati cards staying at low clock speeds? This has been improved for me with the last beta patch as it went from "desktop mode" 240Mhz up to 500Mhz when i'm in the sim, but it still won't go up to 850Mhz which is the maximum (non-overclocked) factory setting for my 4890. The difference is that it runs at 20-30 FPS at 500Mhz, while at 850Mhz it can easily go into the mid 50s.

The reason i'm asking is that maybe we could help resolve this faster. For example, is it something that will have to be patched in the sim to enable catalyst to recognize a game is being run and throttle up the GPU, or is it a driver issue and we're better off reporting it to Ati/AMD directly?

If any of you fellow with access to the Russian forums could tell us about any possible information on this issue it would be much appreciated

I used Ati tray tools to force the clock speeds to 850Mhz but i don't know what other settings to use (cooling fan? voltage? etc) to keep the GPU running stable.
I do get 50 FPS over most kinds of terrain, 25-30 over London and 20-25 in the Black Death track with the clocks set that way, but it ends up rebooting my PC after 40 minutes or so.

This doesn't happen in any other game where catalyst/drivers automatically runs the GPU at 850Mhz so i doubt it's an issue of overheating (GPU temps hover no higher than 60-65 degrees anyway), but i don't know what kind of other settings the drivers possibly change when throttling up the GPU.

Needless to say, seeing the improved performance when the GPU is running at the proper speed, i'm very eager to see a fix implemented so that we don't have to use manual GPU clock settings.

Enjoy your rest and keep up the good work when you come back to the office. I can certainly wait and have fun with what i currently have, i would just appreciate a bit of information on this, if any is available. Cheers
Black are u sure that it is not maxing out the settings once the action starts? i have an ATI card aswell and it will not move beyond idle till the action begins.

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Old 05-01-2011, 07:11 AM
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Victory Day

May 9th, Russia celebrates the victory over Nazi Germany, while remembering those who died in order to achieve it. On 9 May 1945 (by Moscow time) the German military surrendered to the Soviet Union and the Allies of World War II in Berlin (Karlshorst). A military parade is held in Moscow to celebrate the day. Victory Day (День Победы Den Pobedy) is by far one of the biggest Russian holidays. It commemorates those who died in WWII and pays tribute to survivors and veterans. Flowers and wreaths are laid on wartime graves and special parties and concerts are organized for veterans. In the evening there is a firework display. A huge military parade, hosted by the President of the Russian Federation, is annually organized in Moscow on Red Square. Similar parades are organized in all major Russian cities.

Is this reason for Russian holiday week, well deserved
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Old 05-01-2011, 07:23 AM
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I tried this beta patch and the stutters with bombers are back. Seems to be an issue with rendering damage details.
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Old 05-01-2011, 08:59 AM
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Old 05-01-2011, 04:56 PM
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Would it be possible to have some clarification on the issue of Ati cards staying at low clock speeds? This has been improved for me with the last beta patch as it went from "desktop mode" 240Mhz up to 500Mhz when i'm in the sim, but it still won't go up to 850Mhz which is the maximum (non-overclocked) factory setting for my 4890. The difference is that it runs at 20-30 FPS at 500Mhz, while at 850Mhz it can easily go into the mid 50s.

The reason i'm asking is that maybe we could help resolve this faster. For example, is it something that will have to be patched in the sim to enable catalyst to recognize a game is being run and throttle up the GPU, or is it a driver issue and we're better off reporting it to Ati/AMD directly?

If any of you fellow with access to the Russian forums could tell us about any possible information on this issue it would be much appreciated

I used Ati tray tools to force the clock speeds to 850Mhz but i don't know what other settings to use (cooling fan? voltage? etc) to keep the GPU running stable.
I do get 50 FPS over most kinds of terrain, 25-30 over London and 20-25 in the Black Death track with the clocks set that way, but it ends up rebooting my PC after 40 minutes or so.

This doesn't happen in any other game where catalyst/drivers automatically runs the GPU at 850Mhz so i doubt it's an issue of overheating (GPU temps hover no higher than 60-65 degrees anyway), but i don't know what kind of other settings the drivers possibly change when throttling up the GPU.


Just seconding this, I have exactly the same issue with my 5770 and until this is resolved, those of us with this problem are essentially running on crippled hardware. It's not just the 69xx series, it seems spread over a wide range of ATI cards. Please fix this!!
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Old 05-01-2011, 05:35 PM
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Just seconding this, I have exactly the same issue with my 5770 and until this is resolved, those of us with this problem are essentially running on crippled hardware. It's not just the 69xx series, it seems spread over a wide range of ATI cards. Please fix this!!
Guys I run a Asus 6850 and i have never had the problems with the card not ramping up in game. All versions of the game have been ok for me in regard to clock speeds on GPU. I have also used diffrent versions of Ati drivers 11.1 thru to 11.4.

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Old 05-01-2011, 08:33 PM
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Black are u sure that it is not maxing out the settings once the action starts? i have an ATI card aswell and it will not move beyond idle till the action begins.

S!
What i did was open my catalyst panel and go to the tab where it shows the clocks. Then, once i'm in the game i alt-tab out and check it. I have tried the same with Ati tray tools and the findings are similar.
Pre-patch: GPU clock stuck at 240Mhz.
With the latest beta patch installed: GPU clock increased to 500Mhz.

It's a bit weird, since the GPU's factory settings (MSI Cyclone Ati 4890 1GB) specify 850Mhz.

Could it be that it starts scaling back down once i alt-tab out of it to check it, in which case i'd need another 3rd party tool that can be run as an overlay on top of the sim to really see what's going on?

On the other hand i'm pretty confident it doesn't "throttle up", since i can easily see the difference in FPS (confirmed by the in-game FPS counter) between running what the driver wants and forcing it to 850Mhz with Ati Tray Tools. Leaving CCC to manage it i currently get 20-30 FPS on a mission with a high amount of things to render, forcing it to use the factory specified maximum clock speeds gives me 50+.

The only problem is that forcing it via ATT ends up with a crash and reboot every 40 minutes because i'm only changing the clock speeds, i don't know what kind of fan speeds and voltages to use (which would be automatically taken care of by the driver if it was being recognized the same way my other games are).
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Old 05-01-2011, 08:40 PM
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Looks like we may not get the new Patch for another week if thy are on holiday.

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Old 05-01-2011, 11:35 PM
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[QUOTE=Blackdog_kt;277044]What i did was open my catalyst panel and go to the tab where it shows the clocks. Then, once i'm in the game i alt-tab out and check it. I have tried the same with Ati tray tools and the findings are similar.
Pre-patch: GPU clock stuck at 240Mhz.
With the latest beta patch installed: GPU clock increased to 500Mhz.

It's a bit weird, since the GPU's factory settings (MSI Cyclone Ati 4890 1GB) specify 850Mhz.

Could it be that it starts scaling back down once i alt-tab out of it to check it, in which case i'd need another 3rd party tool that can be run as an overlay on top of the sim to really see what's going on?

That is exactly what is happening. clock speeds drop as soon as the action stops. I check clock speeds with a second monitor on with the ATI control center open on it. I'm sure your operating at 850Mhz until you stop playing to check clock speeds.
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