109's 20mm cannons

[ZaltysZ]

Try this

MG h-convergence: 500, v-convergence: 150
Cannons h-convergence: 800, v-convergence: 150

It seems h-convergence and v-convergence have switched meanings in game. In anyway, above settings work well for me.

[Sauf]

There was a thread over at sim hq about this, apparently revi sight shoots low and to the left, cant find the post but it was quite detailed, if you use ww view on a slow flying friendly bomber then switch to the revi the aiming point is different, rounds strike at the ww aim point not the revi.

[Rattlehead]

I also find the 20mm cannon a little hard to be effective with. It's not hard to see why the later models had one 20mm firing through the spinner...much more effective, imo, even with one less gun. Okay, it was the more effective MG151, but still.

I've scored some kills, but it's more pray and spray than anything in my case with the 20mm. I like the 7.92mm machine guns though; they're much more effective than in the old Il-2, where they were basically useless.

[JG52Krupi]

Originally Posted by Rattlehead

I also find the 20mm cannon a little hard to be effective with. It's not hard to see why the later models had one 20mm firing through the spinner...much more effective, imo, even with one less gun. Okay, it was the more effective MG151, but still.

I've scored some kills, but it's more pray and spray than anything in my case with the 20mm. I like the 7.92mm machine guns though; they're much more effective than in the old Il-2, where they were basically useless.

You couldn't be more right , I never had any luck with the 7.92's in the old il2 but now they are fantastic

[KG26_Alpha]

Originally Posted by Rattlehead

I also find the 20mm cannon a little hard to be effective with. It's not hard to see why the later models had one 20mm firing through the spinner...much more effective, imo, even with one less gun. Okay, it was the more effective MG151, but still.

I've scored some kills, but it's more pray and spray than anything in my case with the 20mm. I like the 7.92mm machine guns though; they're much more effective than in the old Il-2, where they were basically useless.

The old Il2 Mg17's were effective until some decided to change something and they become less effective over the patchings it received.

Stuka's strafing trucks has become a chore in the later IL2 1946 versions compared to the earlier Mg17 versions.






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[Hellbender]

Actually the only known real expert defelction shooter of the fighter aces of WW II was Hans-Joachim Marseille.

Here´s some explanation of his tactics in a documentary: Deflection shooting in a curve.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-W7DntLtPo

[FG28_Kodiak]

Orginal convergence of Bf109E-3:

[Pist-N-Broke]

Originally Posted by FG28_Kodiak

Orginal convergence of Bf109E-3:

From the diagram it looks like the best firing solutions are...

Aim LOW at 200M for maximum concentration of fire. You will still have difficulty with different impact points for deflection shooting, due to different MG and cannon projectile velocity.

Aim dead on for targets at 400M, but notice serious 4.5M DIVERGENCE of cannon at 400M. Almost a waste of time using cannon at 400+, unless you are attacking BIG targets, or kick the rudder left and right.

At 300M MG and cannon still shoot higher than gunsight aimpoint. Also MG and cannon have neither verticle or horizontal convergence relative to aimpoint, but offers a 'spray' concentration of fire. Would be damn near impossible to be able to get combined MG and cannon deflection shots.

No wonder the pilots who got the most kills were also the ones that said get in real close.

P.S. Love the diagram.

[kimosabi]

Marseille was King of snapshots!