The real deal !!!!

[Kianoni]

nice vids ty!
btw, why doesn't this plane turn due to torgue (second vid) when being stationary like the ones we have in game. and why is it so controllable even on low speeds??
or is the ground handling in COD very unrealistic or am I just a bad pilot?

[ChrisDNT]

In the preface of the excellent Docavia book on the 190, Kurt Tank explains that he conceived the 190 as an easy aircraft to fly for the less trained pilotes who would come to the squadrons, if the war lasted.

[Sternjaeger II]

Originally Posted by Kianoni

nice vids ty!
btw, why doesn't this plane turn due to torgue (second vid) when being stationary like the ones we have in game. and why is it so controllable even on low speeds??
or is the ground handling in COD very unrealistic or am I just a bad pilot?

the one you refer to is a bug that has already been reported.

[kimosabi]

The third vid. That is one slippery aircraft. Why did they keep upgrading the 109 again?

[Sternjaeger II]

Originally Posted by kimosabi

The third vid. That is one slippery aircraft. Why did they keep upgrading the 109 again?

cheaper to produce, easier to maintain.. Many pilots (Galland included) who came from the 109 school weren't too impressed with the different characteristics of the 190. I don't think one is better than the other, the FW190 proved more versatile in the long run, but the 109 always had the edge in terms of manouverability.

[Thee_oddball]

Originally Posted by Sternjaeger II

cheaper to produce, easier to maintain.. Many pilots (Galland included) who came from the 109 school weren't too impressed with the different characteristics of the 190. I don't think one is better than the other, the FW190 proved more versatile in the long run, but the 109 always had the edge in terms of manouverability.

Guther Rall
"the 109 was a floret and the 190 was a sabre"

[Blakduk]

The main advantage the 109 had over the 190 was its performance at altitude- the 190 hit its service ceiling hard and performance dropped off dramatically. It wasn't really until the 190D that it was acceptable up high- especially at the altitude the USAAF flew at.
Love the video- need more.
Was this the one they found in a forest in the Ukraine?

[ChrisDNT]

"Was this the one they found in a forest in the Ukraine?"

Yes

[kimosabi]

Originally Posted by Sternjaeger II

cheaper to produce, easier to maintain.. Many pilots (Galland included) who came from the 109 school weren't too impressed with the different characteristics of the 190. I don't think one is better than the other, the FW190 proved more versatile in the long run, but the 109 always had the edge in terms of manouverability.

From my understanding Galland wasn't exactly open to new ideas either. I'm reading Steinhilper's book "Spitfire on my tail" and apparently Galland was even against having radio comms in the 109. Coming from the Legion Condor and used to handsigns and wing flapping, guys like him didn't see much past their nose, according to Ulrich Steinhilper, so this attitude is quite clearly explained then IMO.

As for the production cost I agree and understand. Germany was on the backburner very early on. Shame though that the 190 wasn't produced earlier.

[TeeJay82]

If the 109 and the 190 perform close to the real deal in il2, id take a fw anyday...

the 109 roll rate feels like a bus in comparison