Warning: This game is on the edge. Support it or watch it die.

[Flashman]

Originally Posted by Kurfurst

'there shall in that time be rumours of things going astray....and there shall be a great confusion as to where things really are'

Lol, I think Kurfurst has finally given this thread the gravitas it truly deserves

[Sternjaeger II]

we know that by nature simulators are a niche product, but surely such low reviews don't help.

Objectively the sim was released for sale in a late beta stage, and whilst being playable, it shows signs of incompleteness that could put off the average player.

Apart for flight model alleged inaccuracies, things like faulty damage model, bad performance and beta sounds are surely not a good thing.

Let's not forget that this (BoB) actually is a niche product within a niche product, and while for us it's a milestone in the sim world which is just the beginning of a new era, it might take some time for the rest of the world to fully appreciate it, and in my humble opinion this depends again on the lack of efficient PR from Maddox games. All the game houses out there have learned the importance of effective PR, while Maddox keeps on playing this KGB game that surely doesn't help with making their new product popular, esp in a world where players have a very low attention span..

Having said this, i think that as long as Maddox is funded I don't see a dark future, so I wouldn't go as far as saying that it's on the edge.

EDIT:
It is also true though that the evolution of a simulator is different than other games, but again it would help if Maddox Games gave a clear direction for the years ahead, too many "maybe" and "can't tell".

[HFC_Dolphin]

This is getting boring.
No one can blame people who report their problems and their frustration on their Clod experience.
WTF, do you think that people have nothing better to do than attacking the combat flight sim they've been waiting for so many years?
I've been privately discussing this game with Oleg for more than 5 years. I've been sending him suggestions and have this game on my mind all this time and what do you think now? Do you think that suddenly I changed my mind and said to myself "let's attack the project that was on my mind for so many years"?
Do you think that in such a difficult financial time for my country and myself, I spent almost 1.500 euros for new pc/hotas/software for this game and only this, and then got nuts and started attacking it?
Some must be an idiot to believe this.

And I'm not talking about myself, since I've only made some mild critic on the game, but for those who have done the worse attacks on the game and devs, and I say that they deserve to be heard. WTF, this is not a religion where a God comes and the rest bend. Everyone who wants has the right to speak himself and in the end only the facts will prove him right or wrong. Stop attacking people of the community for the way they communicate their message and focus on their message and this is obvious that it is right. The game is not what we all expected. It will be the best combat flight sim and I'm sure of it, but this doesn't mean that in the progress of getting there people are not entitled to criticize it.

We all have to act according to our position. We, the clients, should point out the problems and staying here is the proof of our support.
WTF, we bought the game, we're here discussing it every day, we spent a lot of money to make it work; what more can we do?
Developers should read problems and fix them and keep in mind that as long as they're spending their time on improving the game, in the end they will have the most satisfied audience, exactly as they did have it with IL-2. And in the end, unlike games with maximum lifespan (and economic performance) of one year, this game will be the developer's Purple Cow that will feed them for many-many years to come.
When Crysis and Metro will be a fade memory, this new IL-2 generation will still have thousands of people playing it and spending money in it.
Don't anyone forget this and let's all do our best about it. Others pointing out the problems and others fixing them. Each to his own duty.

Originally Posted by HFC_Dolphin

This is getting boring.
No one can blame people who report their problems and their frustration on their Clod experience.
WTF, do you think that people have nothing better to do than attacking the combat flight sim they've been waiting for so many years?
I've been privately discussing this game with Oleg for more than 5 years. I've been sending him suggestions and have this game on my mind all this time and what do you think now? Do you think that suddenly I changed my mind and said to myself "let's attack the project that was on my mind for so many years"?
Do you think that in such a difficult financial time for my country and myself, I spent almost 1.500 euros for new pc/hotas/software for this game and only this, and then got nuts and started attacking it?
Some must be an idiot to believe this.

And I'm not talking about myself, since I've only made some mild critic on the game, but for those who have done the worse attacks on the game and devs, and I say that they deserve to be heard. WTF, this is not a religion where a God comes and the rest bend. Everyone who wants has the right to speak himself and in the end only the facts will prove him right or wrong. Stop attacking people of the community for the way they communicate their message and focus on their message and this is obvious that it is right. The game is not what we all expected. It will be the best combat flight sim and I'm sure of it, but this doesn't mean that in the progress of getting there people are not entitled to criticize it.

We all have to act according to our position. We, the clients, should point out the problems and staying here is the proof of our support.
WTF, we bought the game, we're here discussing it every day, we spent a lot of money to make it work; what more can we dot?
Developers should read problems and fix them and keep in mind that as long as they're spending their time on improving the game, in the end they will have the most satisfied audience, exactly as they did have it with IL-2. And in the end, unlike games with maximum lifespan (and economic performance) of one year, this game will be the developer's Purple Cow that will feed them for many-many years to come.
When Crysis and Metro will be a fade memory, this new IL-2 generation will still have thousands of people playing it and spending money in it.
Don't anyone forget this and let's all do our best about it. Others pointing out the problems and others fixing them. Each to his own duty.

well said mate...If I dont care I would trash this sim and never look back....