BF109 - Can't we just have the gunsight in the middle?

[David Hayward]

Originally Posted by 41Sqn_Stormcrow

Do you ACTUALLY play Cod and try the shift+f1 in both games? Well, obviously not. If you had you would know that in Cod when pressing shift+f1 I can NOT turn my head around and track an enemy. In Il2 I could track an enemy when pressing shift+f1. Go try it yourself.

I don't have the game yet. That's why I'm asking you all these questions. So, the problem is not the location of the sight, the problem is that you can't turn your head when you're in Shift/F1 mode, right?

[drewpee]

Not that this helps, but it's pretty neat don't you think?
http://youtu.be/Blem3FlkaMc

[Baron]

Originally Posted by David Hayward

I don't have the game yet. That's why I'm asking you all these questions. So, the problem is not the location of the sight, the problem is that you can't turn your head when you're in Shift/F1 mode, right?

Yes + when pressing ctrlF1 in CoD it zooms in per default (cannot be changed afaik) so the view is the same as using maximum zoom (or close to it) when u aiming for a target in IL2.

So u first press ctrl F1 and it lean right/zooms in, then u zoom in even more with the normal fov button.

In CoD u cannot be combat redy with ctrl F1 eneabled since u see squat whats happening around u. Its also a "animation" that takes a couple of seconds to kick in.

[David Hayward]

Originally Posted by Baron

Yes + when pressing ctrlF1 in CoD it zooms in per default (cannot be changed afaik) so the view is the same as using maximum zoom (or close to it) when u aiming for a target in IL2.

So u first press ctrl F1 and it lean right/zooms in, then u zoom in even more with the normal fov button.

In CoD u cannot be combat redy with ctrl F1 eneabled since u see squat whats happening around u. Its also a "animation" that takes a couple of seconds to kick in.

OK It sounds like the sight view is not nearly as easy to use as before. I have seen people stick their head out the side of the cockpit. Can you shift your head over to look through the sight?

[Wolf_Rider]

click mouse scroll wheel (? or one of the buttons) and shift right

[Lixma]

This might help some...(hope springs eternal)

Here's a BF109 pilot's perspective.

Right eye open, left eye shut....



Left eye open, right eye shut....



And here is what a pilot with two eyes open would see....



And here we have the current set up in CoD. It also happens to faithfully, realistically, recreate what a Cyclops would see were he ever to fly for the Luftwaffe.

[KOM.Nausicaa]

Originally Posted by Lixma

And here is what a pilot with two eyes open would see....

No that is not what he would see.

[Lixma]

Originally Posted by KOM.Nausicaa

No that is not what he would see.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reflex_sight

Because reflex sights provide an illuminated reticle, they are often used with both eyes open (the brain will tend to automatically superimpose the illuminated reticle image coming from the dominant eye onto the other eye's unobstructed view), giving the shooter normal depth perception and full field of view.

OK, what would he see?

[Hatch]

So which is more real then ?

The perception of reality is so subjective.

I think it's a viable alternative, and should be an option for those that wish to simulate real life

[heloguy]

Originally Posted by Lixma

And here is what a pilot with two eyes open would see....

As a pilot that flies with HUD every once in awhile, no, that's not what you would see. If I adjust the HUD so only half of it is visible in my right eye, I don't magically see the reverse of that half mirrored on the left. I only see the half, unless I adjust it back to center. HUD, and reflector sights are pretty much the same thing, it's just that the HUD shows information from a processor, instead of only an image of a gunsight. The way it's modeled now is correct.