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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

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Old 04-10-2011, 08:26 AM
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Consider 3000rpm as a WEP option only. Better stay below 2500rpm for the most part.

Open your rads man and keep an eye on temps.
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Old 04-10-2011, 08:50 AM
Ivan Fooker Ivan Fooker is offline
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Thx for all ya input.
As some of your correctly noticed, i am atm flying planes of the "good ones" .... means the B109E3.

Thus the mixture is atm no option,as i can run 0% or 100%.

Water Rad
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For the actual pos. of the water-rad watch for the pins on the wings.
Could u or s.o. else plz take a screenshot to attachment plz...i ve no clue what you mean with that pin

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not only check temps, check oilpressure as well. That might be the thing causing you trouble.
Could some plz tell me where the max and minimum temperatures?

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not only check temps, check oilpressure as well
What is the average,minimum and maximum oilpressure?
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Old 04-10-2011, 10:35 AM
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Firstly, right next to the throttle, bump up the oil radiator to full (its a yellow knob)
Secondly, wind out the regular radiator (its on the right, you have to rotate the thingy)

If it still happens... well at least you've eliminated one option.
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Old 04-10-2011, 10:54 AM
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Hi Ivan, in the manual from the page 89 to the page 93 you will find some refferences about the 109.

Oil temperature should be kept between 30 to 75°C and could be as high as 95 during very short periods.

The water temp should be kept under 80°C, 105 can be maintened only for very short periods.

I fly almost exclusively the 109, I had troubles with the engine too, but now, just by checking the temps I don't face any problems.

The never exceed rpm is 3000, and the max takeoff power is 2450 rpm and 1.45 ATA (well 2400 or 2500 are fine), so you don't need to go to 3000 rpm to have more power. Don't forget to anticipate yours accelerations and decelerations to keep your rpm in the sweet powerband (2200 2500). Map keys for the oil rad and for the water rad (normally 5-6 7-. As said before you have an indicator on your left wing for the water rad position, and you can watch the position of the yelow lever on your left for the oil radiator.

In a dive the procedure is to cut the throttle an to set the prop pitch to 09:30.

I'm sorry but I don't know what are the limits for oil pressure but IIRC you have some white small triangles (marks), normally the needle should stay between them.

Here is a good page for some refferences about the 109 (E-4 but i think it's ok): http://www.shockwaveproductions.com/store/solo/bf109/

Have fun.
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Old 04-10-2011, 11:46 AM
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Can anyone give similar advice for the Hurricane? Oil and water temps, plus optimum RPM and prop pitch? I'm just getting into CEM and I can't figure out how to keep the engine happy. At anything other than level flight I normally get black smoke and red flame pouring from the engine. I can adjust prop pitch and throttle to calm it, but I'm just guessing really!

With temperature effects my engine likely wouldn't last very long
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Old 04-10-2011, 11:52 AM
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I'm sorry I don't know so mutch about the hurricane, but you'll find infos from the page 85, go into C:\Program Files (x86)\il-2 sturmovik cliffs of dover\manual\

Remember that the hurricane is a gravity fed engine so negative G cut the fuel flow and make a rough engine, black smoke can be emitted when this happens.

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Old 04-10-2011, 12:00 PM
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Thanks, I've read that section of the manual but I was just after some advice regarding the black smoke scenario. I thought it was to do with mixture, but in the Hurricane you only have the lean setting for cruising so I'm not sure how to correct the black smoke/vibration when in combat for example.
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Old 04-10-2011, 02:07 PM
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Thx a lot for ya patience and explains!


Edit:
Your hints did the trick thx a lot.
One question remains to become a Pro Engineer....what is the the Oil/pressure clock supposed to do?
Means it is actually interesting only after taking shots, to control if any tubes got hit, and if i ve to get back home?

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Old 04-12-2011, 08:48 PM
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Can anyone give similar advice for the Hurricane? Oil and water temps, plus optimum RPM and prop pitch? I'm just getting into CEM and I can't figure out how to keep the engine happy. At anything other than level flight I normally get black smoke and red flame pouring from the engine. I can adjust prop pitch and throttle to calm it, but I'm just guessing really!

With temperature effects my engine likely wouldn't last very long
We have a problem because the Hurricane (and Spitfire) mixture outputs are reversed to what they should be.
Engine Start:
Set mixture to RICH in cockpit.
Be aware that currently the mixture selection is reversed in the cockpit, RICH = WEAK and vice versa. On the DH prop Hurricane move the mixture lever all the way forward until it is fixed when it will be all the way back. On the Rotol Hurricane, closing the Throttle also closes the Mixture to RICH, which is what it should do on both Hurris. But remember RICH is in fact LEAN atm so with the Rotol move the throttle forward to just clear the START label then move the mixture up to just behind it, thats as RICH as you'll get without over-opening the throttle for startup. When running, handle the Rotol Hurri throttle opening carefully, moving the mixture lever forward behind the advancing throttle as much as engine running will allow. This should all go away once the problem has been fixed. See
http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showpos...70&postcount=5

Temps for takeoff:
Oil temp: min 15'C
Coolant temp: min 60'C (according to Pilots notes)

Open Radiator until you are in a position to manage the engine temp with it (70C - 90C, max 105C)

Takeoff prop is usually 3000 rpm, max boost. Climbout around 2600 with boost reduced around 4lbs. Combat in the region of 2600-2800. Cruise anywhere from 2000-2400, typically boost 0. These are from memory of the pilots notes but they should help.
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Old 04-12-2011, 09:14 PM
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I'm also getting that shaking syndrome in the 109. It's an intermittent but permanent shaking and sometimes it eases off and sometimes it's really bad.

The only way I can make it stop is running the engine at full throttle. The prop pitch doesn't seem to matter. I've tried all settings of prop pitch but the shaking remains.
Radiator and oil radiator are open; sometimes I close the engine radiator a little but nothing I do seems to stop the shaking, except again if I run the aircraft at full throttle. Temperatures are normal. It's wierd.

I also have an info box open that shows engine damage, but according to the game I have no engine damage. (?)

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