Inaccurate performance data for BOB fighters in COD comparing to RL data

[SturmKreator]

Originally Posted by SG1_Gunkan

This a very critical post for the sim. No matter the complexity of the engine model or physics, if the data is not reliable, people won't take the sim in consideration.

Thank you very much Kwiatek, this time let's make the data chars clear, public and historical.

Thats true, If we have the same stupid performances than Il2, I prefer fly the old il2, becouse at least we have a more finished job. I hate the Olegs team idea who thinks balance the game will be more fun, LOL, the people want realism, not a console game. Sorry, but if the game not changes at all in this way, I never bought him.

[Ala13_ManOWar]

Originally Posted by SG1_Gunkan

This a very critical post for the sim. No matter the complexity of the engine model or physics, if the data is not reliable, people won't take the sim in consideration.

Thank you very much Kwiatek, this time let's make the data chars clear, public and historical.

Originally Posted by SturmKreator

Thats true, If we have the same stupid performances than Il2, I prefer fly the old il2, becouse at least we have a more finished job. I hate the Olegs team idea who thinks balance the game will be more fun, LOL, the people want realism, not a console game. Sorry, but if the game not changes at all in this way, I never bought him.

+10

Every one of us is claiming for realism in the sim till first Il-2, and creators also sell the sim to us as "the most realistic", so any sense in using incorrect data. By the way accurate data for most of aircraft are available for every people who wants to find it, Kwiatek demonstrate it, so non sense also trying to fool us with nobodyknowsfromwhere data... And not the only thing, everyone of us knows actually how an Emil's DB601 sounds, not to mention a RR Merlin, there are at least two airworthy Emil examples nowadays and you can see in youtube... does really make sense trying to say us a Db601 sounds like ingame? details like this only tell us what's the real level of research and finishing of the product, so please don't fool us any more and do things like you said it'll be do from start.

S!

[juamfra]

Originally Posted by SG1_Gunkan

This a very critical post for the sim. No matter the complexity of the engine model or physics, if the data is not reliable, people won't take the sim in consideration.

Thank you very much Kwiatek, this time let's make the data chars clear, public and historical.

Originally Posted by SturmKreator

Thats true, If we have the same stupid performances than Il2, I prefer fly the old il2, becouse at least we have a more finished job. I hate the Olegs team idea who thinks balance the game will be more fun, LOL, the people want realism, not a console game. Sorry, but if the game not changes at all in this way, I never bought him.

Originally Posted by Ala13_ManOWar

+10

Every one of us is claiming for realism in the sim till first Il-2, and creators also sell the sim to us as "the most realistic", so any sense in using incorrect data. By the way accurate data for most of aircraft are available for every people who wants to find it, Kwiatek demonstrate it, so non sense also trying to fool us with nobodyknowsfromwhere data... And not the only thing, everyone of us knows actually how an Emil's DB601 sounds, not to mention a RR Merlin, there are at least two airworthy Emil examples nowadays and you can see in youtube... does really make sense trying to say us a Db601 sounds like ingame? details like this only tell us what's the real level of research and finishing of the product, so please don't fool us any more and do things like you said it'll be do from start.

S!

+100

Totally agree, nothing to add.

Let's wait and see what they are cooking right now. Luthier announced that they will do some plane performance adaptions and FM modifications in one of their next patches.

Currently I think the whole discussion on FM is a bit into the empty anyhow as we already know that the FM is wrong since RL ceilings can be reached by no a/c in game right now.

I don't adventure into guessing why even though I have some theories.

But I do appreciate the effort of actually collecting historical data. But if you do so please add the sources. This is vital if you want your data to have some credibility (no offence meant).

[Peril]

Originally Posted by 41Sqn_Stormcrow

Let's wait and see what they are cooking right now. Luthier announced that they will do some plane performance adaptions and FM modifications in one of their next patches.

Currently I think the whole discussion on FM is a bit into the empty anyhow as we already know that the FM is wrong since RL ceilings can be reached by no a/c in game right now.

I don't adventure into guessing why even though I have some theories.

But I do appreciate the effort of actually collecting historical data. But if you do so please add the sources. This is vital if you want your data to have some credibility (no offence meant).

I got close in the latest patch, did not test before now so others will have to chime in with previous performance specs.

Latest Patch

Just climbed the latest patch Hurricane I with no CEM and managed to reach a ceiling of 30,000ft (RoC of 100 ftm) using 3000rpm.

Seems a little light on performance in climb test, data indicated rated climb was @ 2600rpm and was 400fpm @ 30kft. So whilst I did almost reach the RL ceiling I had to use more power ie. 3000rpm.

My data on the Hurricane is limited, looks like a rated max of ~32kft? seems to me like boost was a bit low generally, at higher rpm this should be higher alt rated, for others to resolve I guess.