Force Feedback

[chappy]

the lack of FFB is one thing, what is really pathetic is that they havent bothered to test hardware such as the G940 and realise the effect this has on the stick. this 'sim' is effectively unplayable without FFB enabled or some other measure taken to allow the centereing force to be adjustable. There is no other title that i have ever owned (including titles that pre-date my joystick ) that has caused my G940 to seize up and not work like this one does.

truely unbelievable.
This will likely affect hundreds of customers i would expect a rapid and effective fix to this issue. Devs need to respond.

[Reprobator]

Can't they "borrow" a part of the wings of prey /birds of prey ffb code?
Because in the end, it's from the same editor

[Eklund89]

Originally Posted by Hexcaliber

The problem goes further than simply not supporting FFB, because 1c have clearly used directinput for the control interface but do not initialise FFB hardware, many ffb stick's will be almost unusable, or could be damaged as a result.

The G940 for instance, defaults to the pressure used to calibrate the sticks centre position when switched on, which is altogether too stiff to make any kind of subtle adjustments, and extremely tiring even over modest periods of flight. There is another more serious problem that could arise with the G 940 and other FFB sticks, as I seriously doubt the motor was intended to be placed under the stress of gameplay when applying this level of pressure to the stick, as a result a user could potentially shorten the motors lifespan with even moderate use. What's more, in the absence of correct initialisation there is no facility to adjust that tension through the sticks drivers.

That leaves users with one of three options:

One: do not play (I cancelled as soon as I realised it had no ffb).

Two: soldier on regardless until 1C get round to fixing it and hope your stick will not break

Three: wait until a member of the community offers a hacked directinput.dll that will initialise the sticks and set default values when the game starts up.

There is a fourth option, that of paying for a new non ffb stick, but having paid £250 for a G 940 for functions that have been standard in flight sims for over 10 years, 1C can get stuffed. I will spend the money I saved cancelling COD's pre order, on purchasing missing ROF aircraft and I eagerly await the release of their new campaign mode which will not take 6 years to release, and may eventually get round to COD when second hand copies hit the bargain bins.

Or you could just pull out the powerplug from the G940 and skip the FFB. Then it will work like a normal stick exept centering wich i dont prefer anyways.

[mazex]

Originally Posted by Eklund89

Or you could just pull out the powerplug from the G940 and skip the FFB. Then it will work like a normal stick exept centering wich i dont prefer anyways.

Even though I think that leaving out FF support in THE definitive flight simulator is impossible I would be happy enough with a statement from Ilya saying that: "Sorry, we had too much other stuff done so the last months so we had to postpone it. But yes it will naturally be implemented in the future. ".

If you are short of time Ilya a simple +1 on this post will do it...

PS. I hurts to join the whining "we demand" bunch, but as a IRL pilot since 1986 I can't live without force feedback, and I have talked to many other pilots saying the same...

And I do have the game and it IS playable with a G940, I dont know what makes it work for me? It has self centering, but it's not that hard... A far fetched thought... I have the 5.10 software and the 5.09 is still the one listed under the support page for the G940, you find the 5.10 software on the G27 page for example...

[Eizon]

I thought it was a bug that my FFB didn't work.

The game doesn't have FFB? It's not a deal-breaker, but it's close for me. I'd rather have FFB than the stupid trees and all that crap.

In fact I'd rather just play original IL2 but I hate the way the multiplayer works (no lobby, etc).

[tagTaken2]

Seriously, how hard is it?

Did you forget how to do FFB support after Il-2 1946 coming out?

DON'T CRAP ON ABOUT PRIORITIES. FFB IS A GIVEN, SO FIX IT.

Excuse me for shouting, but I've waited a long time for this game, and to drop support for an essential feature now is like a punch in the face.

[Pike]

Dear All,
I will try Chappies solution tonight with my old MFFB2. If it works then I will buy a G940 as I will also use it to fly IL-2 RoF and Lockon. I suppose we should give Olegs group time to recouperate. I think they must have known that there would be a lot of issues to attend to to say nothing of that damn epilepse filter. I really do hope that at some point they will include FF because if not I will be discouraged from playing CLoD when I can play any of those other flight sims without any hassle.
However.....I can imagine what it must have been like for Oleg's group in the last frantic weeks before release of CLoD, so I do understand that we need to step back and look at it after we have all calmed down. Then things could be incorprated in good time..........we just have to be patient.
regards,
Pike.

[Sully_pa]

Originally Posted by Pike

Dear All,
I will try Chappies solution tonight with my old MFFB2. If it works then I will buy a G940 as I will also use it to fly IL-2 RoF and Lockon. I suppose we should give Olegs group time to recouperate. I think they must have known that there would be a lot of issues to attend to to say nothing of that damn epilepse filter. I really do hope that at some point they will include FF because if not I will be discouraged from playing CLoD when I can play any of those other flight sims without any hassle.
However.....I can imagine what it must have been like for Oleg's group in the last frantic weeks before release of CLoD, so I do understand that we need to step back and look at it after we have all calmed down. Then things could be incorprated in good time..........we just have to be patient.
regards,
Pike.

Pike, Chappies solution may work for the G940 to keep the spring center tension lighter but it won't give it FFB and the MSFFB 2 works in game just fine no adjustments needed from the get go just no FFB.