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Old 03-30-2011, 04:27 PM
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no BF109E1/E4 for Luft, no 100 octane fuel for RAF.

its Battle of Britain, but not as we know it, at least according to history.

100 octane fuel went to the front line units from spring 1940....
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Old 03-30-2011, 04:34 PM
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100 octane fuel went to the front line units from spring 1940....



In all honesty though I'm as confused about the content choices made as you are.
I wonder what new content they plan to bring to the playing field once the performance patches are out of the way.

100 octane fuel should be relatively easy to do; a proper E4 would need 3D work.

@ Biggs
What does the other Mk I have?
Maybe the plan was to give one fixed pitch, one two pitch and one CSP?
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Old 03-30-2011, 04:41 PM
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no BF109E1/E4 for Luft, no 100 octane fuel for RAF.

its Battle of Britain, but not as we know it, at least according to history.

100 octane fuel went to the front line units from spring 1940....
Actually, I did some research on the 12lb boost Hurricane back last year for my squadron and the question of the 100 octane fuel arose. Here's Britain's stockpile of 100 octane fuel and my comments about it...

31st March 1940: 220,000 tons
11th July 1940: 343,000 tons
10th October 1940: 424,000 tons

"Now the stock levels are interesting and you can read them in a number of ways. You can say either that Britain and it's squadrons were well equipped with the fuel or you could say that Britain was well equipped but held back the fuel.
The way I see it is that those squadrons operating in France and 11 Group would of been well stocked with 100 octane fuel. Those that were in 13 Group would of been less so."
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Old 03-30-2011, 04:44 PM
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Thanks for the info m8.

To me the question wether or not to include 100 octane fuel isn't up for debate at all.
If it was there let it be reflected in the sim.
Same goes for 601 N variants or even a F-0 to play around with.
Gameplay balance is a server admin task in my eyes.
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Old 03-30-2011, 04:45 PM
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i can readily find some pilot sources from frontline squadrons, from a varity of books....

I read it the same way as you moggy, except the france part. over france at Dunkirk yes, not hurris based in france.

EDIT agree 100% hunin.

personally would love to see a E1...

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Old 03-30-2011, 04:55 PM
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We were debating which Hurricane to use during the latter part of our BoF campaign. We were using the Hurricane fixed pitch and considered used the vanilla "1938" Hurricane. I successfully argued for the inclusion of the 12lb Hurricane. This was my post over on the Tangmere Pilots forum;

As most of you know, I've requested that the Hurricane Mk.I 12lb boost be included at some point (the sooner the better imho) during our BoF campaign. Bunny raised a couple of interesting questions about the aircraft; when was it in service and did they use them during the Battle of France campaign? I've done some research on the aircraft this morning but I'll clarify the differences between the 3 Hurricanes.

Hurricane Mk.I early, 1938: 2 blade Watts fixed pitch prop, no boost
Hurricane Mk.I, 1938: 3 blade Rotol constant speed prop, 6¼ lb boost
Hurricane Mk.I 12 lbs, 1940: 3 blade Rotol constant speed prop, 12 lb boost

The 12lb Hurri's were being tested late in 1939 and were in squadron service by February 1940.
http://www.wwiiaircraftperformance.o...rb-16feb40.jpg

From what I've read the 6¼ lb'ers could be modified by the squadrons themselves to give a maximum boost rating of 12 lbs.
http://www.wwiiaircraftperformance.org/ap1590b.jpg

The 1st combat reports of a 12 lb boost being used in France are from 18th May 1940 with F/Lt I. R. Gleed of 87 Squadron (based in Lille) and S/L E. M. Donaldson and P/O John Bushell both of 151 Squadron (based in Vitry).
http://www.wwiiaircraftperformance.o...ed-18may40.jpg
http://www.wwiiaircraftperformance.o...e/bushell.html
http://www.wwiiaircraftperformance.o...dn-18may40.pdf
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Old 03-30-2011, 04:57 PM
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didn't know about the hurris in France, thanks
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Old 03-30-2011, 05:02 PM
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Neither did I! I like the fact the 12lb boost was a field modification that squadrons could undertake themselves. If memory serves, it could be done in the space of a morning (might be getting confused with a Sopwith Camel though...don't ask!).
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The way I see it is that those squadrons operating in France
Sure it was not Belgium?

Lille and I think Vitry is in Belgium.
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Old 03-30-2011, 05:09 PM
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something seems off... I can climb in a mkIIa @2k ft/min on 4lb boost with my prop set at 2500rpm with a speed of ~230 IAS....

If I take the mkIa (with its bugged prop) and try a climb angle of 2k ft/min with my boost set at 4 and my prop set at coarse making the revs about 2300/2400 rpm i can only manage about 180 IAS.... and thats only for a short peroid of time.. after a few thousand feet ur boost drops to 0 and u cant maintain the 2k climb angle...u can barely maintain 1k!

and also with the mkIa at 18k feet with the boost at 4lb and the prop set at coarse I only manage to hit 240 IAS thats hardly 200 MPH TAS!

how is it possible to reach the planes actual top speed (which is 350 mph IIRC)?

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