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Old 03-20-2011, 06:38 PM
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By design, the game will be able to take advantage of the latest technology for years to come...so if you have a current rig, the sim will always look great.
Tree, if you have said some things to praise Oleg's newest creation, I haven't seen it.
If you like Cliffs of Dover so much, why are you so negative?
I have said from the beginning that Oleg will surpass my wildest imagination and from what I have seen over the years I seem to be spot on.
This is only gaging from the short video cliffs and numerous photos.
I can't imagine what goodies are in store once we have an opportunity to mess around with it.
Its a lie, it is not able to take advantage of the latest tech OR EVEN CURRENT TECH. Why? Because DX11 has been available for coming up to two years now and its not ingame (and devs would of known about it/be able to get info before the general public). Now I am not saying that they wont add it in (which they said they are going to do), but if you run it dx9 thats very dated, dx10 is also getting long in the tooth.

Point is on release the game's engine will be antiquated upon release, it may look good, but its foolish to call (and a lie) to say it will be able to harness all the tools for years to come since it cant even use hardware and software from coming up to two years ago!
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Old 03-20-2011, 06:47 PM
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Its a lie, it is not able to take advantage of the latest tech OR EVEN CURRENT TECH. Why? Because DX11 has been available for coming up to two years now and its not ingame (and devs would of known about it/be able to get info before the general public). Now I am not saying that they wont add it in (which they said they are going to do), but if you run it dx9 thats very dated, dx10 is also getting long in the tooth.

Point is on release the game's engine will be antiquated upon release, it may look good, but its foolish to call (and a lie) to say it will be able to harness all the tools for years to come since it cant even use hardware and software from coming up to two years ago!
+1 thats the way most rational people would see it.
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Old 03-20-2011, 09:36 PM
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+1 thats the way most rational people would see it.
ROFLOL - WIN!

I love your logic, Tree: Eat xxxx, thousands of flies can't be wrong!


LOL - sorry, but two people posting the same non-sense doesn't form a "common sense".

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Old 03-20-2011, 09:51 PM
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You lot are like 12 year old kids. Can't you accept that certain people have certain opinions? Unless you have nothing better to do with you lives, stop wasting your time arguing, please, it's getting really boring now.
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Old 03-20-2011, 10:16 PM
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You lot are like 12 year old kids. Can't you accept that certain people have certain opinions? Unless you have nothing better to do with you lives, stop wasting your time arguing, please, it's getting really boring now.
I am procrastinating, dont take away my favourite passtime

-Also the point made about the graphics options is valid. It all could be worked into their general settings, but that would mean big jumps from dx9 - dx10 because if you cant tweak shadow and lighting settings/features that means you have a big performance gap which is bad...
But its worse that it doesnt have the setting their at all...

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Old 03-20-2011, 11:22 PM
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I am procrastinating, dont take away my favourite passtime

-Also the point made about the graphics options is valid. It all could be worked into their general settings, but that would mean big jumps from dx9 - dx10 because if you cant tweak shadow and lighting settings/features that means you have a big performance gap which is bad...
But its worse that it doesnt have the setting their at all...
But at this point, we have to admit that what we have seen so far from COD are really bits and pieces...Even the video was made at medium settings with many features turned off...from a Beta version...
And it is very possible that the control pannels are also from a Beta version excluding many "hidden" features available in future updates...
And yes Oleg implemented some DX11 features but was disapointed by the results...So he's holding back for now...
To conclude my taughts, I would say that we are soooooooooooooo speculating about sooooooooooooo many aspects of COD that , though it is interesting to see how some of us forsee this project, as the maker of this video said, we will probably all be very happy with COD at release, and even more happier in few months from now...

SAlute !
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Old 03-20-2011, 11:47 PM
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ROFLOL - WIN!

I love your logic, Tree: Eat xxxx, thousands of flies can't be wrong!


LOL - sorry, but two people posting the same non-sense doesn't form a "common sense".
slightly less rare sense?
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Old 03-21-2011, 01:16 AM
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But at this point, we have to admit that what we have seen so far from COD are really bits and pieces...Even the video was made at medium settings with many features turned off...from a Beta version...
And it is very possible that the control pannels are also from a Beta version excluding many "hidden" features available in future updates...
And yes Oleg implemented some DX11 features but was disapointed by the results...So he's holding back for now...
To conclude my taughts, I would say that we are soooooooooooooo speculating about sooooooooooooo many aspects of COD that , though it is interesting to see how some of us forsee this project, as the maker of this video said, we will probably all be very happy with COD at release, and even more happier in few months from now...

SAlute !
Im not complaining, I am simply stating the facts as the devs have said themselves, and to say the game pushes the limits of tech and such when it will be released this month is a lie. Thats all I said, its a lie because it uses an outdated engine. That doesnt mean it will look bad, just that it will not be fully up to date graphics, and therefore to say it is the best thing since sliced bread and has the best graphics possible is simply not true.
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Old 03-20-2011, 10:18 PM
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ROFLOL - WIN!

I love your logic, Tree: Eat xxxx, thousands of flies can't be wrong!


LOL - sorry, but two people posting the same non-sense doesn't form a "common sense".
lol, I like that im going to use it myself.

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Old 03-21-2011, 07:39 PM
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For the love of god... FIRST
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"Originally Posted by choctaw111
By design, the game will be able to take advantage of the latest technology for years to come...so if you have a current rig, the sim will always look great.
Tree, if you have said some things to praise Oleg's newest creation, I haven't seen it.
If you like Cliffs of Dover so much, why are you so negative?
I have said from the beginning that Oleg will surpass my wildest imagination and from what I have seen over the years I seem to be spot on.
This is only gaging from the short video cliffs and numerous photos.
I can't imagine what goodies are in store once we have an opportunity to mess around with it. "

This post from choc was against tree, I responded to this post or more specifically this statement: "By design, the game will take advantage of the latest technology for years to come" I said upon release that is NOT true, because the latest tech is dx11 which is not in the release version.

In reply I posted:
"Its a lie, it is not able to take advantage of the latest tech OR EVEN CURRENT TECH. Why? Because DX11 has been available for coming up to two years now and its not ingame (and devs would of known about it/be able to get info before the general public). Now I am not saying that they wont add it in (which they said they are going to do), but if you run it dx9 thats very dated, dx10 is also getting long in the tooth.

Point is on release the game's engine will be antiquated upon release, it may look good, but its foolish to call (and a lie) to say it will be able to harness all the tools for years to come since it cant even use hardware and software from coming up to two years ago!"

While that may of been alittle strong, its the truth, and I picked the word antiquated specifically because of the statement that the game will take advantage of all the newest hardware and software (which it wont).

Seriously this boards nuts, WHEN did I EVER say that there was another flight sim better or comparable to COD? I never said that, but because people on this board are to lazy to actually read they would know what I was arguing about in the first place before people dragged the discussion down by saying I was whinning because of no DX11. I was not doing anything of the sort, I was just saying that it did NOT use the most modern hardware and software. So when you say I am whinning about lack of dx11 on release date - that is wrong.


@Black - this is what you said "...to which you respond with "don't be an idiot making assumptions". Then, someone comes along and corrects the data you based your assessment of our supposed idiocy on, a correction which you accepted. Ergo, self-contradiction comedy.
Do yourself and all of us a favor favor, press the "preview post" once in a while and read what you are about to post before actually submitting it, it will help make you a more likeable person overall"

Actually if you had botherd to read, he never posted his original source, and infact said that current market share was only 5% or less, without sighting a source. He was completely wrong, as he himself pointed out and upon repost he posted up the 17% number and where he got it from, which was correct. If you are going to make a statement you need to be able to back it up and not just fling mud without actually making a counter argument/thesis etc. As you noticed I posted a number and said where it came from, and included a link, something many on this forum fail to do.

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