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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

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Yes I have and like using Steam 256 54.47%
Yes I have and dont like using Steam 67 14.26%
No I do not have Steam but will for CoD 52 11.06%
No I do not have Steam and will not for CoD 95 20.21%
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Old 03-14-2011, 06:51 PM
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Yes as was stated before 18% of a tiny insignificant forum.... compared to a huge very impressive tool (STEAM) with a huge user base.

Its time you took a peak outside the "Banana Forums" and realizes you need to do the maths LOL....how deluded can you get?
Feel free to post a poll on SAS or AAS then. Watch your mouth too. I've seen how many problems Steam has caused for the ARMA2 community (The group I'm in for example) - the majority being among the less PC competent people. However, we must not forget the strange method of running Combined Operations. I don't want to see the same happening to the IL-2 community.

Regarding the Maths, even a 2% loss is massive. Lets say 1C sell 1,000,000 units. Now, factor in the lost sales: what is 2% of 1,000,000? 20,000. 20,000 units at £30 of revenue each is £600,000 lost. So, that is nothing, of course. Would you turn down £600,000 of revenue?

If I was as rude as yourself, I would say you're deluded. However, I will refrain since I respect you.

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Old 03-14-2011, 06:57 PM
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Feel free to post a poll on SAS or AAS then. Watch your mouth too. I've seen how many problems Steam has caused for the ARMA2 community (The group I'm in for example) - the majority being among the less PC competent people. However, we must not forget the strange method of running Combined Operations. I don't want to see the same happening to the IL-2 community.

Regarding the Maths, even a 2% loss is massive. Lets say 1C sell 1,000,000 units. Now, factor in the lost sales: what is 2% of 1,000,000? 20,000. 20,000 units at £30 of revenue each is £600,000 lost. So, that is nothing, of course. Would you turn down £600,000 of revenue?

If I was as rude as yourself, I would say you're deluded. However, I will refrain since I respect you.
Respect not sure if I deserve any after my last few post... I have been a bit outspoken with my replies.

I don't mean to be rude but i just can't get my head around the moaning on this forum.
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Old 03-14-2011, 07:31 PM
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Respect not sure if I deserve any after my last few post... I have been a bit outspoken with my replies.

I don't mean to be rude but i just can't get my head around the moaning on this forum.
Its not me, I'll be buying it for sure. I'm just speaking for others.
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Old 03-14-2011, 10:51 PM
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Regarding the Maths, even a 2% loss is massive. Lets say 1C sell 1,000,000 units. Now, factor in the lost sales: what is 2% of 1,000,000? 20,000. 20,000 units at £30 of revenue each is £600,000 lost. So, that is nothing, of course. Would you turn down £600,000 of revenue?

If I was as rude as yourself, I would say you're deluded. However, I will refrain since I respect you.
You assume that everyone who says they will not buy will stick by that and thus is a lost sale never gained when its highly likely having the game on Steam will see it gain some sales, perhaps even replace those who say they will not buy it on Steam.

Even the most ardent boycott groups have broken down once the game is released. I remember the boycott groups for Modern Warfare 2 and Left 4 Dead 2 being full of members who were seen playing the game on Steam days after they released, so much for their resolve.
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Old 03-15-2011, 07:01 PM
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Regarding the Maths, even a 2% loss is massive. Lets say 1C sell 1,000,000 units. Now, factor in the lost sales: what is 2% of 1,000,000? 20,000. 20,000 units at £30 of revenue each is £600,000 lost. So, that is nothing, of course. Would you turn down £600,000 of revenue?
What you seem to overlook is the tens of thousands extra sales they will get due to using Steam.
Steam has over 30 million "active" (logged into in last 30 days) user accounts and those will almost all see an add for IL2: COD at some point..either while browsing the games list or during sales when it's put in the spotlight.

So the 2% that might not buy the game because of Steam will be dwarfed by the thousands who will discover IL2 thanks to steam and buy subsequent releases+tell their sim oriented friends.

In the end it's a no-brainer for any company really. (even ignoring the provided anti-cheat)
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