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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

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Yes I have and like using Steam 256 54.47%
Yes I have and dont like using Steam 67 14.26%
No I do not have Steam but will for CoD 52 11.06%
No I do not have Steam and will not for CoD 95 20.21%
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Old 03-14-2011, 03:48 PM
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You fool of course monopolies are dangerous just look at apple and Microsoft I hate both companies but I use windows and I'm guessing you do as well... It's not up to you to decide if oleg uses steam on his product it us however up to you to use a product that is linked to steam

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Why do you feel the need to constantly insult people and call them names? Are you insecure, generally people act this way when they have no other way to control a situation. From what I can see 66% of people don't mind STEAM so you are in a majority. This speaks to psychological issues you may wish to address.
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Old 03-14-2011, 03:56 PM
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Why do you feel the need to constantly insult people and call them names? Are you insecure, generally people act this way when they have no other way to control a situation. From what I can see 66% of people don't mind STEAM so you are in a majority. This speaks to psychological issues you may wish to address.
Sorry I did not want to insult you and I dont feel the need to/constantly insult people, you are the first , you are not being forced to use steam to play all games just this one it's hardly a monopoly and more people have started to use impulse and direct to drive.

Steam is in no way a monopoly hence the fool part, again sorry about that but don't even try to label steam a monopoly if you want to see a monopoly just look at Microsoft...

Lol at my apparent psychological issues u best agree with me before I go on a murder spree , if steam is sued for being a monopoly like microsoft has then I will agree with u until then it's no more of a monopoly than your local fish and chip shop if you don't like the food don't eat there

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Old 03-14-2011, 04:57 PM
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In this case Steam is indeed a monopoly as you must have the Steam client in order to run the game, even offline.

Unlike, say, ArmA II where you can purchase the game on Steam, or not, and anyone can play online in any server they choose, no matter how they purchased it.

And I'm really starting to think that there a a lot of shills on both forums now promoting Steam as if there life depended on it.
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And I'm really starting to think that there a a lot of shills on both forums now promoting Steam as if there life depended on it.
Quoted for truth.
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Old 03-14-2011, 05:28 PM
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Well, I just registered here to reply to this thread.
Ive been playing IL2 since its debut here in the states. Between 1C, TD, and the modding community at large its been my go to flight sim for ~10 years. Ive been anxiously awaiting the release of this since 2005 and now that I find steam is involved, well, talk about a buzzkill. Ive used steam in the past, with bad results. Invasive programs that I never wanted in the first place, running in the background of my computer, stupid long download times and having to run this program even if I want to play offline (which is all I really do)...simple solution though, I'm just not going to buy it.
If there was any other option (short of SH5 type DRM) Id go for it, but this is too much for me to stomach.
I'm not going to cry about it, fact is its 1C's loss. I still have a top noch flight sim thats only getting better with age.
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Old 03-14-2011, 05:29 PM
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In this case Steam is indeed a monopoly as you must have the Steam client in order to run the game, even offline.

Unlike, say, ArmA II where you can purchase the game on Steam, or not, and anyone can play online in any server they choose, no matter how they purchased it.

And I'm really starting to think that there a a lot of shills on both forums now promoting Steam as if there life depended on it.

Not at all i think its more the opposite way, people whine and moan about the evil Steam as if their 50$ lifetime investment depend upon it, comparing Steam with spy-ware and viruses just shows the ignorance.
How about take a chill pill, catch up and enjoy the most authentic flight recreation of ww2 ever to be released, or you can simply sit there waiting for Steam to go away, which won't happen.

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Not at all i think its more the opposite way, people whine and moan about the evil Steam as if their 50$ lifetime investment depend upon it, comparing Steam with spy-ware and viruses just shows the ignorance.
How about take a chill pill, catch up and enjoy the most authentic flight recreation of ww2 ever to be released, or you can simply sit there waiting for Steam to go away, which won't happen.
Or, wait for the cracked version at which point Ill send a check for $50 to 1C.
So thats the only argument you steamers have? "get used to it"? Well apparently alot of us don't want to, and for that matter don't need to.
Steam is exactly like any other malicious software in that I dont want it, and wont of my own choice have it.
Not quite sure why the steamers have such a hard time with this concept?
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Or, wait for the cracked version at which point Ill send a check for $50 to 1C.
So thats the only argument you steamers have? "get used to it"? Well apparently alot of us don't want to, and for that matter don't need to.
Steam is exactly like any other malicious software in that I dont want it, and wont of my own choice have it.
Not quite sure why the steamers have such a hard time with this concept?
A crack will still require steam.
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Or, wait for the cracked version at which point Ill send a check for $50 to 1C.
So thats the only argument you steamers have? "get used to it"? Well apparently alot of us don't want to, and for that matter don't need to.
Steam is exactly like any other malicious software in that I dont want it, and wont of my own choice have it.
Not quite sure why the steamers have such a hard time with this concept?

Far from the only argument we have, but that post wasn't intended to list all my arguments.
I'm sure you and the rest of the crack-pirates will send your money straight to 1c maddox office....... riight.

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Old 03-14-2011, 06:10 PM
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Also, I'm pretty sure you won't be doing much online gaming with the cracked version.

Look, steam has many more pro's than con's, it has saved PC gaming. Conservative Grandpa haters have teary eyes for yester year when PC games were stocked on shelves in large numbers. 1C have decided to use Steam to sell more copies of the games, why blame for that. It really isn't that bad, as 56% of people here know.

Cry some more.
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