Poll regarding Steam users

[ElAurens]

Really wouldn't it have just been so much better if 1C had decided to just market CoD on Steam, thereby taking advantage of the large pool of potential buyers, but left the requirement to have it for play out of the deal? This is how it is for many other games and it works just fine.

That way those who like Steam could buy the title that way, and us old time, loyal players, would be happy with our current way of doing things and not have to have Steam.

That would have been a win~win for all of us.

[The Kraken]

Originally Posted by ElAurens

Really wouldn't it have just been so much better if 1C had decided to just market CoD on Steam, thereby taking advantage of the large pool of potential buyers, but left the requirement to have it for play out of the deal? This is how it is for many other games and it works just fine.

I'd have preferred that as well, many other companies do so. However from 1C's point of view Steam is a no-brainer, at least for all their other games they seem to be doing well with it. It's the only way they publish in the west and they don't need to build any relationship to retailers that way, which they never had to start with.

Big open questions for me are still:
- why is Ubi also tying in Steam (technical reasons? requirement from 1C for multiplayer compatibility?)
- why is it not for sale on Steam so far (can't think of anything so I blame Ubi for that, they deserve it either way)
- will it eventually be on sale through Steam by either 1C or Ubi (fingers crossed for 1C...)

The "how can we buy what we want to buy" mystery continues...

[JG52Uther]

And while everyone is so over the moon with steam,lets hope we don't end up with EA games system!
From the destructoid forums,not directly linking 'cos of the swearing

If you ever needed more evidence of how ludicrously some publishers treat PC players, you can stop your search right here. A gamer was recently punished for using "bad language" on BioWare's forums with a ban from Dragon Age II. Yep, if you screw up on a message board, EA can stop you from playing legally purchased, offline games.

The ban was for referring to EA as a "devil", which netted the user a 72-hour suspension. During that period, he was unable to play Dragon Age II because he needed his suspended account in order to activate it. BioWare's only response was to copy and paste the terms and services of its forums, basically in order to say "not our problem."

Electronic Arts, however, has since revoked the ban -- likely due to a lot of outraged gamer backlash -- and has claimed the suspension from the game was a "mistake." Apparently he was only supposed to be suspended from the forum, but got locked out of everything that requires an EA account.

Yet further proof that EA doesn't know what the **** it's doing with its stupid EA account nonsense. Still, nice to know that such clueless chimps can essentially hold your games to ransom.

[zauii]

Originally Posted by ElAurens

That way those who like Steam could buy the title that way, and us old time, loyal players, would be happy with our current way of doing things and not have to have Steam.

That would have been a win~win for all of us.

So the rest of us ain't loyal enough because we support steam? or could it simply be that we're less paranoid and actually know how the service works..

[Hellfire257]

What the hell do you think you are doing!?

Bad move indeed. You're only feeding a monster when you use Steam. Very disappointing. Was there really any need to do it? No. People won't want to buy CoD now. Yes, it may be a minority, but those figures soon add up. And how much will those lost sales cost you? How much?

[kimosabi]

I vote that the whiners get YuPlay DRM instead. That should shut them up.

[zauii]

Originally Posted by Hellfire257

What the hell do you think you are doing!?

Bad move indeed. You're only feeding a monster when you use Steam. Very disappointing. Was there really any need to do it? No. People won't want to buy CoD now. Yes, it may be a minority, but those figures soon add up. And how much will those lost sales cost you? How much?

Tbh if that would be the case, you'd be the loser as Oleg is your only hope of a modern state of the art ww2 flight sim for quite a while. Thankfully it's only a small minority which is against steam.
Steam is no monster btw, its a great solid platform.

[Hellfire257]

Originally Posted by zauii

Tbh if that would be the case, you'd be the loser as Oleg is your only hope of a modern state of the art ww2 flight sim for quite a while. Thankfully it's only a small minority which is against steam.
Steam is no monster btw, its a great solid platform.

Nobody said I wouldn't be buying it. Several regular Il2 players I know will not be buying it. Steam is a corporate monster. So much so that game stores have protested over not buying games which require Steamworks. You're feeding something that will eventually dominate the market. Once that happens, the price you pay to "own" your games is in their hands.

[Dangerdog]

Don't have any issues with Steam or in this case Steamworks (browser for match making etc), thank goodness they're not using Games for Windows Live.

[David603]

Originally Posted by Hellfire257

Nobody said I wouldn't be buying it. Several regular Il2 players I know will not be buying it. Steam is a corporate monster. So much so that game stores have protested over not buying games which require Steamworks. You're feeding something that will eventually dominate the market. Once that happens, the price you pay to "own" your games is in their hands.

Game stores protested because Steam was going to sell PC games for less than the RRP, while still giving several times as much money to the developers of the games per sale. Said game stores threatened to stop stocking games that use Steam unless Steam was forced to keep selling games at RRP. If Steam had their way we would able to buy games at considerably cheaper prices.

Also, the game stores rake off around 60% of the price you pay in-store for each game.