Shame on you for using STEAM !

[Vyper]

Originally Posted by Luftrofl

See how that works. The benefits have been shown over and over but some literally can't seem to "think outside the [game]box". I don't understand people afraid of using Steam for risk of somehow losing access to one copy of the game, then claiming to be cancelling pre-orders for a dozen boxes of it. I would bet money Steam will outlast Ubisoft. The developers have decided to use it, either embrace it or punish yourself by missing out on the game you've all been foaming at the mouth for. Not a hard decision.

Funny part is that most of the haters will actually like steam once they understand it.

Funniest part will be all the people who buy the game then can't run it because it isn't Il2 1946 and blame their PC's shortcomings on Steam.

So why are you for forcing people to use it? Would you be for being forced to use AOL? All anyone posting so far is concerned about is the lack of getting a choice in the matter, when clearly steam isn't needed to perform multiplayer functionality yet the rumblings are saying it will be required to do so. (And begs to question how dedicated servers will work in that situation).

The funny part, as you put it...is that some of us have had this off and on and off again relationship with steam/valve for over 12 years. There isn't anything to understand, so your point is moot.

Limiting choices and creating control bases in favor of companies like valve are not good for the gaming community as a whole. It is not good for any business market.

[leggit]

if using steam means Oleg and team have more cash for future development then so be it. To all the i'm not buying CoD because...as someone has said before bye bye.... you whinny little kids.

[Space Communist]

Steam is probably the most important thing keeping the PC gaming industry alive today. It boggles my mind every time a "niche" game comes to mainstream how many PC gamers in this day and age are not using it, and for that matter do not understand how it works.

Fortunately I know that the RRAARRRGH STEAM IS A VIRUS people are simply a small but vocal minority. Even if they really do huddle under tinfoil helmets and boycott the game (most of them end up buying it anyway despite the whining,) the (already mentioned in this thread several times) much higher share of the money going to the devs far outweighs this.

[TheGrunch]

Originally Posted by Vyper

So why are you for forcing people to use it?

Because the game needs a damn server browser on launch! It's all very well saying that Steam isn't NEEDED to use multiplayer functionality but that relies on third-party software being developed or updated to do so. Would you prefer third-party software to be shipped on the disc? Can you imagine how the less computer-savvy would react to a game with no default server browser? They just wouldn't play multiplayer, or they'd be up in arms about the game being missing something so fundamental. Steam fills that gap for a developer with much less effort, and that's without considering all the other benefits it adds for multiplayer.

If you were making a game and you had no experience of programming server browser software, and someone offered you a deal to use a service whereby you could a) offer your consumers a professional quality server browser with all the features expected nowadays such as friends lists etc., b) get upwards of 60% of the value of sales through the service c) offer automatic updates to your consumers, would you say "OH NO i LOVE spending all my time on unnecessarily duplicating features such as this instead of improving my game", or would you say..."sounds like a pretty sweet deal for everyone"?

[Luftrofl]

Originally Posted by Vyper

So why are you for forcing people to use it?

Do you anti-Steam people read at all? There have been so many positive reasons listed in these Steam threads, just go read..... As for the 100% definitive reason, you'll have to wait for Oleg to say why they wanted to use it.

To clarify, I couldn't care less if you use it or not. Just pointing out that most of the complaining about it done here is baseless. You have to wait for official reason why they decided to force it's use.

[Specht]

Thank you VERY MUCH for using Steam, this makes my life much easier in many ways.

One: I don't have to wait until the game gets released in my country.

Two: I pay a much better price on Steam than buying boxes in my country.

Three: Steam is a fantastic platform.

[JG52Uther]

Originally Posted by Specht

Thank you VERY MUCH for using Steam, this makes my life much easier in many ways.

One: I don't have to wait until the game gets released in my country.

Two: I pay a much better price on Steam than buying boxes in my country.

Three: Steam is a fantastic platform.

But the game is not for sale on Steam apparently...

[Specht]

Originally Posted by JG52Uther

But the game is not for sale on Steam apparently...

Oh bugger...

[Defender]

Originally Posted by JG52Uther

But the game is not for sale on Steam apparently...

It probably will be available on Steam, it will be some time after release though once Ubi can cash in on it's initial investment.

[zauii]

On the whole server browser thingy, we've no idea yet if Oleg is utilizing his own or not, Ubi message is way too blurry.
The game will have an in-game server browser that's pretty much a given, if it will utilize steam technology we'll see.

Steam works just fine, its a great platform imo.