Shame on you for using STEAM !

Steam is fine and convienient , get off your high horse. I have about 20 games from steam.

[fearlessfrog]

I love steam - works great. Good MP choice 1C.

Bad thread title is bad tho.

[Novotny]

The faq has not been further clarified as of yet, but it does seem to be indicating that Steam is required. Hopefully we'll know for certain soon.

[Kikuchiyo]

Originally Posted by CHB68

It becomes better and better. What does that mean ? Is Steam an option for additional services only, or are we not able to play the game w/o that spy & malware ? Please advise asap !!

It is not spy or malware that is factually incorrect.

[RaM85]

[QUOTE=Avimimus;231549]Well, the big issues will appear if steam tries to mess with customised installs (patching etc.), has compatibility issues or hems in multiplayer modes.

Well, if a heavely modded Arma 2 runs smootly through steam I don't see why il2 shouldn't....

I also don' t see (talking in general) why some people are so concerned about steam, I find it very simple and "permissive". Once You've installed somehing you can play it just however you like. I reckon that in it's early days got some issues, but now it's a completely different thing.

[JG53Frankyboy]

HL2 , no go
Modern Warfare only after some very deep search in the forums
TotalWar Empire no go

i have preordered the Collectors Edition of CoD so far. But im thinking to switch to the standard edition (not so much money wasted in case STEAM will not allow me to use the game , again..) or to cancel it totaly.
I am waiting for some more information from official !C or UBI side about the need of STEAM use in CoD.

[Royraiden]

I have been using Steam for more than 5 years without a single problem.In fact Im glad that it will be available through steam.

[JG53Frankyboy]

but a second questionj is dou you want it play online exclusivly through steam too ??

if the install/purchase and online play via STEAM is a CHOICE , its totlay OK.
But if you are forced to use STEAM...

the statement on the UBO püage is not totaly clear in that, at least in my understanding as a non native english speaker.

[Royraiden]

Originally Posted by JG53Frankyboy

but a second questionj is dou you want it play online exclusivly through steam too ??

if the install/purchase and online play via STEAM is a CHOICE , its totlay OK.
But if you are forced to use STEAM...

the statement on the UBO püage is not totaly clear in that, at least in my understanding as a non native english speaker.

Definitely having it as a choice should be the right decision.No doubts about that.

[Kikuchiyo]

I use Steam pretty much exclusively, and honestly prefer games that use it's match making service too. I've never had issues with Steam itself, but someone used the example of Moder Warfare, and the recent Total War, which if we are totally honest were buggy piles of crap at launch. That isn't Valve or Steamwork's fault when a publsisher/developer hocks off some bloody awful port that won't run for most people.

These issues need to be pointed out and seperated. Steam can't be held accountable for the short comings of the publishers/developers that offer their software through Steam any more than you can hold a B&M store accountable in that regard. Does Steam have it's issues? Sure. All software has issues. I for one am not going to go into panic mode over this. If day one comes and I pay forth my money to get Il-2 Cliffs of Dover and it can't or won't run I will be up in arms, and likely will request a refund. I, however, highly doubt that will be necessary. Steam has improved in functionality and usefulness in leaps and bounds since the early days of HL2.

To another question that was brought up (or a couple actually): a)Whether or not I can mod my game with Steam? Yes, just like any other bit of software find the file and change it. Steam will not change it back unless an applied patch does that. (i.e. the developer's patch undoes all mods)
b) Can I run the version of the game I want to run (i.e. I don't like the current patch and want to run an older version)? Yes, and no. You can back up the current version to a separate folder for posterities sake, and if a new patch comes out that you don't like you can pull the old files out. You will have to set the game to not auto update, but hold onto that older file because when Steam starts back up it will update an out of date version of the game in it's subfolders. This does not mean the same thing as erasing mods.

160 games through steam. only game I have issue with and can't run is Rome: Total War, and that is because I use windows 7 and that game can't run on this OS.