Hotas setup for the upcoming Cliffs of Dover

[madrebel]

Originally Posted by blampars

Combatstick tab, mode 1, dx device drop down menu, CM Device 1.
Pro Pedals tab, mode 1, dx device drop down menu, CM Device 2.
Throttle tab, Mode 1, dx device drop down menu, CM Device 3.

why do this when you can create one logical controller?

you can combine the stick, throttle, and pedals all into CM device 1. Doing this allows the mode functionality to really shine too as it triples your options.

[blampars]

Originally Posted by madrebel

why do this when you can create one logical controller?

you can combine the stick, throttle, and pedals all into CM device 1. Doing this allows the mode functionality to really shine too as it triples your options.

I did it this way as combining all the devices as one controller didn't work for me for whatever reason.
Ill have to play around with that option a bit more. One question though, when using that feature would I still be able to be in mode 1 on throttle and mode 2 on stick if I choose? Or is it one mode for all devices since its using them all as one device?

I'm no pro with ch cm... I was just posting what I found worked for me after hours of wtf moments heh.

[madrebel]

Originally Posted by blampars

I did it this way as combining all the devices as one controller didn't work for me for whatever reason.
Ill have to play around with that option a bit more. One question though, when using that feature would I still be able to be in mode 1 on throttle and mode 2 on stick if I choose? Or is it one mode for all devices since its using them all as one device?

I'm no pro with ch cm... I was just posting what I found worked for me after hours of wtf moments heh.

when they're all combined the mode is global afaik. however, i'm not sure why you would want different mode states.

if you can detail why you like/want/prefer alternate mode states i may be able to figure out a better solution using the global modes. keep in mind you get 3 modes, and each mode can have unique shifted states per key via the pinky button.

a note on modes is mode 2 and 3 inherit mode 1's function unless otherwise stated.

lets use the trigger button one as an example.

if you have Weapon_1 in the "Press" normal action box and you want Weapon_1 also in mode 2 and 3 then you don't need to specify anything in mode 2 and 3.

however, if you want mode 2 to have some other function, but you want mode 3 to have Weapon_1 then you have to specify that in each mdoe box.

if you want mode 1 and 2 to have the same function, but mode 3 to ahve a different function then you only need to change mode 3 as mode 2 will inherit mode 1's function.

the same goes for the shifted state btw .

[Revvin]

Originally Posted by madrebel

why do this when you can create one logical controller?

you can combine the stick, throttle, and pedals all into CM device 1. Doing this allows the mode functionality to really shine too as it triples your options.

Its all down to personal preference but in my opinion leaving the devices separate is the way forward. Combining the devices limits you to what DirectX will support and thats 8 axis and 32 buttons. When separate you get three devices with all their axis and buttons at your disposal. You can take things even further should you want to and use a little CMS script as I did in one of my IL-2 profiles that swapped the X and Y axis from my stick to my yoke and back again at the touch of a button if I wanted to change and fly bombers instead of fighters without having to remap controls in IL-2 options or leave the sim to load a new profile.

Originally Posted by blampars

I did it this way as combining all the devices as one controller didn't work for me for whatever reason.
Ill have to play around with that option a bit more. One question though, when using that feature would I still be able to be in mode 1 on throttle and mode 2 on stick if I choose? Or is it one mode for all devices since its using them all as one device?

Whatever mode you are in on the stick is the same mode the other devices will be in. The LED light will cycle when you press the mode button on the stick but will not cycle the lights on the throttle as they are not linked in any way. In fact even if you press the mode button on the stick the LED will still cycle as its hard wired to do so.

Originally Posted by madrebel

when you click on the map wizard you then select your controls, combine all the controllers into one logical device, 8 axis/32 buttons, add script functionality, then click finish.

now you have a raw un programmed device with 8 axis and 32 buttons (more if you have the fighter stick i have the combat).www.ch-hangar.com is a great resource. lots of friendly folks in those forums. the mini stick rotary trim function i found there many moons ago and there are a ton of other great scripts already written.

You're limited to 32 buttons and 8 axis for one Direct X device whatever CH Controller you have, its Direct X that limits that not the hardware or the Control Manager software. Thanks for the plug there are a number of existing IL-2 profiles and .cmc files available for download there as well as many other WWII sims.

[SsSsSsSsSnake]

thanks guys,thats a lot to think about and try shall get a good nights sleep 1st then see how it goes

[madrebel]

Originally Posted by Revvin

You're limited to 32 buttons and 8 axis for one Direct X device whatever CH Controller you have, its Direct X that limits that not the hardware or the Control Manager software. Thanks for the plug there are a number of existing IL-2 profiles and .cmc files available for download there as well as many other WWII sims.

does it limit even if not using DX buttons? i have never had the fighter stick and the combo with combat stick is exactly 32 buttons.

[blampars]

Originally Posted by madrebel

when they're all combined the mode is global afaik. however, i'm not sure why you would want different mode states.

if you can detail why you like/want/prefer alternate mode states i may be able to figure out a better solution using the global modes. keep in mind you get 3 modes, and each mode can have unique shifted states per key via the pinky button.

a note on modes is mode 2 and 3 inherit mode 1's function unless otherwise stated.

lets use the trigger button one as an example.

if you have Weapon_1 in the "Press" normal action box and you want Weapon_1 also in mode 2 and 3 then you don't need to specify anything in mode 2 and 3.

however, if you want mode 2 to have some other function, but you want mode 3 to have Weapon_1 then you have to specify that in each mdoe box.

if you want mode 1 and 2 to have the same function, but mode 3 to ahve a different function then you only need to change mode 3 as mode 2 will inherit mode 1's function.

the same goes for the shifted state btw .

Don't have a specific reason why I want that, I'm just trying to wrap my head around how it all works with the different options available in setting up the CH hotas

[madrebel]

Originally Posted by blampars

Don't have a specific reason why I want that, I'm just trying to wrap my head around how it all works with the different options available in setting up the CH hotas

what i've found is if i can think it up i can either do it via the .cmc file or someone who knows cms much better than i do can make a script for me over at ch-hangar.com.

i don't know the cms scripting that well but from waht i've seen over on their forums you can do pretty much anything you want with a script.