Head Tracking with Cliffs of Dover

[Wolf_Rider]

Originally Posted by WTE_Galway

Amusing thread.

Either way I see no reason not to allow access to the free interface for those people keen enough (or financially challenged enough) to build their own.

that's as taken for granted, Galway... and no-one is arguing against an alternative which is free of relying on another's copyrighted product to work being included.
Most however use the hack option within Freetrack to hack NP's software... even with games that have access made open to alternative headtrackers (FSX/ ArmAII for instance), most of the users pass over those options in favour of the NP software hack because of the better results.

[SEE]

Originally Posted by Wolf_Rider;227664

alternative which is free of relying on another's copyrighted product

Tut, Tut, naughty boy, using such language.....must I remind you to at least try and answer my simple question?



QUESTION...........Why have NP been unable to claim damages or prevent the use of their original DLL against, or by, 3rd party developers?

I seem to be having De ja Views (excuse the pun), haven't I asked this before?


.....................and never get an answer.....I wonder why that is?

[Wolf_Rider]

Originally Posted by SEE

W-R , NP know exactly how it works, send them an email - given their customer support reputation I am sure they will send you full and accurate details.

Maybe you or NP can answer a simple question (and I suggest all FT users simply repeat it to any quote that involves 'Hack', 'stolen', 'not clean'!).

QUESTION...........Why have NP been unable to claim damages or prevent the use of their original DLL against, or by, 3rd party developers?

Originally Posted by SEE

Tut, Tut, naughty boy, using such language.....must I remind you to at least try and answer my simple question?



QUESTION...........Why have NP been unable to claim damages or prevent the use of their original DLL against, or by, 3rd party developers?

I seem to be having De ja Views (excuse the pun), haven't I asked this before?

answer is the same as last time

[SEE]

Last time?......apologies - I must have missed it!
Please point me to it, it may be buried in approx. 3000 posts, or better still, remind me of what you said.

[Wolf_Rider]

you are aware FT is a hack, aren't you See?

[SEE]

Which brings me back to my question.....no need to repeat it, its five above this one - but, until it is answered, I for one cannot simply assume (or claim) it is 'hacked' as you and others put it.

I would expect a manufacturer to protect their 'intellectual property' through civil action. If that were not the case I would have to question wether it was in fact their 'Intelectual property', which could possibly explain that manufacturer having to devise an alternative.

[Wolf_Rider]

the answer was given See...

what does "civil action" mean to a hack?

[WTE_Galway]

Originally Posted by SEE

QUESTION...........Why have NP been unable to claim damages or prevent the use of their original DLL against, or by, 3rd party developers?

According to Natural Point lawyers the FreeTrack developers:

"removed violating material from the binaries and replaced it with tools which allow the user to violate the copyright themselves when TrackIR support is needed".


From a legal point of view this apparently moves the copyright violation from the FreeTrack developers to end users of FreeTrack. Taking individual users to court is ridiculous.

However this discussion is also ridiculous as no-one here is, as far as I know, actually a copy-right lawyer so everyone is simply scanning the web for quotes to try and badger the opposition with.

[MadBlaster]

How’s this for scanning the web.

Some really, really funny reading about the installation hell that VF19_Wolf_Rider has to go through to "hack" the Sim Connect dll and get his TrackIR to work.

http://forum.naturalpoint.com/forum/...r=20766&page=5

Quite a "clean" solution you got there W-R. You still sleep well at night? Or maybe section 107 "Fair Use" exception to U.S. Copyright Act helps you with this? Your sticking point is pure fallacy. But certianly you are entitled to wash, rinse, repeat as much as you like.

[Wolf_Rider]

Originally Posted by MadBlaster

How’s this for scanning the web.

Some really, really funny reading about the installation hell that VF19_Wolf_Rider has to go through to "hack" the Sim Connect dll and get his TrackIR to work.

http://forum.naturalpoint.com/forum/...r=20766&page=5

Quite a "clean" solution you got there W-R. You still sleep well at night? Or maybe section 107 "Fair Use" exception to U.S. Copyright Act helps you with this? Your sticking point is pure fallacy. But certianly you are entitled to wash, rinse, repeat as much as you like.

you sir are a complete and utter moron

charliechew @ 09/10/2008 - 15h30 a dit:

FS9: Still only getting 4DOF.





You need to install TirViews :

FreeTrack Manual a dit:

TrackIR interface
FreeTrack works with all TrackIR enabled programs. The number of degrees of freedom available is dependent on the host application. The following games require, or can benefit from, an optional extension called TIRViews.

FS2004 – alternative to FSUIPC interface with full 6DOF support,
FSX – same as SimConnect interface.
Wings of War
NASCAR Racing Season 2003
Colin McRae Rally 4
Race Driver 2
Combat Flight Simulator 3
Richard Burns Rally
F1 Challenge
To install the extension, a file from the TrackIR software named TIRViews.dll needs to be copied into the FreeTrack root directory. TrackIR software is free for download from here:

http://www.naturalpoint.com/trackir/...d-manuals.html

If the file is found when FreeTrack starts, the TIRViews text next to the output option is black to indicate it is enabled, otherwise it is grey. When enabled and the output option is checked, the above games are supported (including automatic profile loading) and the FSUIPC and SimConnect interfaces are overridden.

FreeTrack creates and executes a dummy TrackIR.exe process to improve compatibility with TrackIR enabled games like Grand Prix Legends (GPL).

TrackIR software should not be run alongside FreeTrack.




Please try to run FSX as well once TIRviews has been installed and tell me if view sensibility issue is still there please .

Hope we'll get it ...

Rémy

I used to be in SQN40 too