Head Tracking with Cliffs of Dover

[swiss]

Originally Posted by LoBiSoMeM

Funniest post ever!

If you built the "I'm not a complet idiot and can buy a PS3eye/Wiimote, plug it in a PC, and sold some IR leds in some kind of suport and fix it in one headset", the NORMAL price will be less than $50... And with 100-120FPS...

This topic can't be taken serious with this kind of "defenders" of NP hardware...

You could as well say:

"if you're not a complete idiot, you can just download your favorite OS, run the hack and save $300".

Feel free to replace OS with: mp3, movie or any software of you choice.

[Wolf_Rider]

Adonys... Euro?? you forgot shipping and taxes

[LoBiSoMeM]

Originally Posted by swiss

You could as well say:

"if you're not a complete idiot, you can just download your favorite OS, run the hack and save $300".

Feel free to replace OS with: mp3, movie or any software of you choice.

Still with this crap of "hack"?

Pathetic.

By the way, Bill Gates don't bother if a lot of "poor" individual users "hack" his OS... It's the funniest thing too!!!

Keeep saying "HACK"! It's funny!

[WTE_Galway]

Amusing thread.

Personally after working all day in IT support and maintenance I much prefer to just pay a few dollars to get something that works rather than build my own head tracker.

I did try building my own rudder pedals once and it was seriously not worth the effort.

However if other people enjoy building their own pedal powered PC or homemade head tracker who am I to oppose it. Its also possible some people may have trouble justifying the cost of a trackIr with the wife or girlfriend.

Either way I see no reason not to allow access to the free interface for those people keen enough (or financially challenged enough) to build their own.

[Wolf_Rider]

Originally Posted by WTE_Galway

Amusing thread.

Either way I see no reason not to allow access to the free interface for those people keen enough (or financially challenged enough) to build their own.

that's as taken for granted, Galway... and no-one is arguing against an alternative which is free of relying on another's copyrighted product to work being included.
Most however use the hack option within Freetrack to hack NP's software... even with games that have access made open to alternative headtrackers (FSX/ ArmAII for instance), most of the users pass over those options in favour of the NP software hack because of the better results.

[SEE]

Originally Posted by Wolf_Rider;227664

alternative which is free of relying on another's copyrighted product

Tut, Tut, naughty boy, using such language.....must I remind you to at least try and answer my simple question?



QUESTION...........Why have NP been unable to claim damages or prevent the use of their original DLL against, or by, 3rd party developers?

I seem to be having De ja Views (excuse the pun), haven't I asked this before?


.....................and never get an answer.....I wonder why that is?

[Wolf_Rider]

Originally Posted by SEE

W-R , NP know exactly how it works, send them an email - given their customer support reputation I am sure they will send you full and accurate details.

Maybe you or NP can answer a simple question (and I suggest all FT users simply repeat it to any quote that involves 'Hack', 'stolen', 'not clean'!).

QUESTION...........Why have NP been unable to claim damages or prevent the use of their original DLL against, or by, 3rd party developers?

Originally Posted by SEE

Tut, Tut, naughty boy, using such language.....must I remind you to at least try and answer my simple question?



QUESTION...........Why have NP been unable to claim damages or prevent the use of their original DLL against, or by, 3rd party developers?

I seem to be having De ja Views (excuse the pun), haven't I asked this before?

answer is the same as last time

[SEE]

Last time?......apologies - I must have missed it!
Please point me to it, it may be buried in approx. 3000 posts, or better still, remind me of what you said.

[WTE_Galway]

Originally Posted by SEE

QUESTION...........Why have NP been unable to claim damages or prevent the use of their original DLL against, or by, 3rd party developers?

According to Natural Point lawyers the FreeTrack developers:

"removed violating material from the binaries and replaced it with tools which allow the user to violate the copyright themselves when TrackIR support is needed".


From a legal point of view this apparently moves the copyright violation from the FreeTrack developers to end users of FreeTrack. Taking individual users to court is ridiculous.

However this discussion is also ridiculous as no-one here is, as far as I know, actually a copy-right lawyer so everyone is simply scanning the web for quotes to try and badger the opposition with.

[MadBlaster]

How’s this for scanning the web.

Some really, really funny reading about the installation hell that VF19_Wolf_Rider has to go through to "hack" the Sim Connect dll and get his TrackIR to work.

http://forum.naturalpoint.com/forum/...r=20766&page=5

Quite a "clean" solution you got there W-R. You still sleep well at night? Or maybe section 107 "Fair Use" exception to U.S. Copyright Act helps you with this? Your sticking point is pure fallacy. But certianly you are entitled to wash, rinse, repeat as much as you like.