Muzzleflashes unrealistic?

[ElAurens]

My Marlin 1894P with 16.25 inch ported barrel, chambered in .44 Magnum, will give you a "Kodak Moment", even in broad daylight.



Never seen any muzzle flash from any of my SMLEs or Martinis though.

[GnigruH]

Yes, muzzleflashes unrealistic.

[Sutts]

Must be powder related...here's an MG42 with very clear muzzle flash.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GWN7G...eature=related

Originally Posted by Sutts

Must be powder related...here's an MG42 with very clear muzzle flash.

It says right there that it's firing blanks. Blanks make huge muzzle flashes.

..some food for thought...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xxj5ON5F-nk

[LukeFF]

Eh, how about some actual wartime footage?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3vE3FWOe0ls

Originally Posted by LukeFF

Eh, how about some actual wartime footage?

that view at 3.50 from the wing while shooting is SO cool! Never seen it before!

Originally Posted by LukeFF

Eh, how about some actual wartime footage?

That's an IL-2 firing Soviet guns. Having fired a Mosin Nagant I can tell you that the Russians have no problems with adding too much powder to their ammo. Then again it might also be more lax quality control than their western counterparts.

[LukeFF]

Originally Posted by speculum jockey

That's an IL-2 firing Soviet guns. Having fired a Mosin Nagant I can tell you that the Russians have no problems with adding too much powder to their ammo. Then again it might also be more lax quality control than their western counterparts.

Ah, I was waiting for the "this is a Russian aircraft, so it's different" argument.

If the Russians added too much power to their ammo, then I'd expect that one of my several Mosins or other Soviet firearms in my collection would have exploded by now.

Originally Posted by LukeFF

Ah, I was waiting for the "this is a Russian aircraft, so it's different" argument.

If the Russians added too much power to their ammo, then I'd expect that one of my several Mosins or other Soviet firearms in my collection would have exploded by now.

If you can see a muzzle flash during the day you've got too much power and a lot of it is being burned outside of the barrel. It's very similar to stack fires in rich running aircraft (another can of worms). Hence the Mosin's muzzle flash being visible during the day is a result of powder being burned outside of the barrel (too much).

As far as your point on "exploding Mosins" not likely. You can add a lot of extra powder to most bolt action rifles (Mauser's and pre/early war Arisaka's especially) without much chance of a catastrophic failure. Heck, a lot of companies usually end up loading something in the order of 3 times too much powder before they get a catastrophic failure involving the action, typically it's the barrel that goes first.

Anyways, we're talking about British .303, and German 7.92 and 20mm guns. Posting a soviet plane has little to do with Spit/Hurri/BF-109/110 visible muzzle flashes during the day.

Muzzle flashes under most conditions with regards to the planes involved in the Battle of Britain are not visible during the day.