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View Poll Results: Would you sacrifice small graphical issues in order to be able to use 6-DoF
Yes I could cope with this as it would add to my flying experience 270 85.44%
No, I'd rather have my head on a fixed stick thanks you very much 46 14.56%
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Old 02-22-2011, 03:16 PM
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And how did your measure this? The plate has just the correct size, thats our conclusion. Yes, the PoV would move to the front.
By the simplest means possible. I turn my head and I see that far too much of the rear view is obstructed.

I don't know if the 3D model is accurate and the armour plate to scale compared with the rest of the cockpit or the real aircraft. I don't know if the eyepoint is correct. I don't really care because I understand that you are trying to best represent/compensate for a 6 DOF rear view on essentially a 2D screen. What I am saying is that the result is wrong. The armour plate appears to be too wide. It was essentially narrower than its height and not roughly equal in height and width as it appears to be in the current rear view.

Like Kubisko and other past posters I don't understand why you are having such a hard time accepting this.

TD has added a variety of new aircraft or variants but seem extremely reluctant to improve the rear view of one of the most important RAF aircraft or are at least reluctant to do more than consider "But maybe PoV" which if I understand you correctly will change the forward view. It seems to me that to move the eyepoint forward enough to make a more realistic rear view it would put the forward view eyepoint far too close to the panel/gunsight but only TD will know that when/if they try.
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Old 02-22-2011, 04:27 PM
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By the simplest means possible. I turn my head and I see that far too much of the rear view is obstructed.

I don't know if the 3D model is accurate and the armour plate to scale compared with the rest of the cockpit or the real aircraft. I don't know if the eyepoint is correct. I don't really care because I understand that you are trying to best represent/compensate for a 6 DOF rear view on essentially a 2D screen. What I am saying is that the result is wrong. The armour plate appears to be too wide. It was essentially narrower than its height and not roughly equal in height and width as it appears to be in the current rear view.

Like Kubisko and other past posters I don't understand why you are having such a hard time accepting this.

TD has added a variety of new aircraft or variants but seem extremely reluctant to improve the rear view of one of the most important RAF aircraft or are at least reluctant to do more than consider "But maybe PoV" which if I understand you correctly will change the forward view. It seems to me that to move the eyepoint forward enough to make a more realistic rear view it would put the forward view eyepoint far too close to the panel/gunsight but only TD will know that when/if they try.
Moving the PoV forward would have a similar impact on rear visibility that shrinking the backplate would, while negating the need to alter the cockpit away from its historical proportions (which are already represented in the current cockpit). The pilot's head is currently pressed up against the backplate and so visibility to the rear is compromised (and the backplate will seem very large to the pilot as a result). It seems to to me that Caspar is indicating that DT will address the Tempest rear-visibility issue in a future patch but that they will address it using PoV rather than adjusting the cockpit model. I wouldn't be too worried about the forward view in the Tempest (it should remain excellent) and you'd be surprised how little you need to move the PoV to make a meaningful difference WRT the backplate.

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Old 02-22-2011, 05:55 PM
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1) You can´t feel the Gs

2) You can´t feel the aceleration

3) You can´t feel the rudder- turning right or Left

4)You can´t feel nothing

The eyes are blind , Only see in resolution 1900x1200?? -
compared with the reality is , very poor.

You only can have 6DOF vs all things have a real pilot!!



Cliffs of Dover Have 6DOF,
See videos.
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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