Head Tracking with Cliffs of Dover

[albx]

Originally Posted by LoBiSoMeM

Nah, decent hardware creators don't bother so much about "hacks", they goes opposite way:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programme...ne/9210071.stm

I bought a PS3Eye without even have a PS3... Just because someone "hack" the driver to PC use... you think Sony is upset about that? LOL!

NP is a joke. Isn't a serious hardware company, someday they will vanish if still trying just to keep this market of simmers nerds with IR lights in head!

With M$ Kinetic and future hardware we maybe someday can use our hands to rotate some dials inside the cockpit of WWII warbirds virtualy...

I did the same lobi, i also have a PS3eye e no PS3 , did you removed the IR filter? i'm using white leds, not the IR, and works very good

[sigur_ros]

§ 102 more relevant.

"In no case does copyright protection for an original work of authorship extend to any idea, procedure, process, system, method of operation, concept, principle, or discovery, regardless of the form in which it is described, explained, illustrated, or embodied in such work."

[MadBlaster]

Originally Posted by sigur_ros

§ 102 more relevant.

"In no case does copyright protection for an original work of authorship extend to any idea, procedure, process, system, method of operation, concept, principle, or discovery, regardless of the form in which it is described, explained, illustrated, or embodied in such work."

You suggest TrackIR interface code is not an original work, but an outgrowth extension? Maybe this is true since HT technology existed before being used in games by TrakIR. So now we have formulated two possible defenses, all to be nullified by the WTO (lol).

[Wolf_Rider]

who invented headtracking for the PC?

[MadBlaster]

Originally Posted by Wolf_Rider

who invented headtracking for the PC?

Who invented head tracking?

Who invented head?

Who invented tracking?

Who invented invented?

Who invented who?




Fyi, http://www.freepatentsonline.com/7121946.html - Cybernet Systems Corporation. Also, this is a patent.

[sigur_ros]

Originally Posted by MadBlaster

You suggest TrackIR interface code is not an original work

No, software interface is 'idea, procedure, process, system, method of operation' so copyright cannot stop compatibility.

Originally Posted by Wolf_Rider

who invented headtracking for the PC?

VFX first to have many games support.

http://www.mindflux.com.au/products/iis/vfx1soft.html

[klem]

Wow 49 pages of legal debate! Well there are a few answers to the original question.

The poor guy only asked for our thoughts.
(But I wish he'd put his hat on straight!)

I use TIR because I tried FT in the old days and it wasn't too good back then. I suppose I never got off the TIR wagon. It's good and I could afford it so I bought TIR4 after TIR2. Now running TIR5 software and unsure about the advantages of TIR5 hardware because I'm too lazy to look.

[Wolf_Rider]

@ Blaster
@ Sigur_ros

well, thank you both, you've completely shutdown all claims of monopoly... well done!

mindflux was through eye tracking, not IR
(Curiously though, the mindflux lists both TIR and a Logitech 6DoF tracker?)

and the CSC was using a colour camera and a selectable image


so... three different technologies and no monopoly

[MadBlaster]

Originally Posted by Wolf_Rider

@ Blaster
@ Sigur_ros

well, thank you both, you've completely shutdown all claims of monopoly... well done!

mindflux was through eye tracking, not IR
(Curiously though, the mindflux lists both TIR and a Logitech 6DoF tracker?)

and the CSC was using a colour camera and a selectable image


so... three different technologies and no monopoly

Oh man. You are hopelessly reaching for anything now. Their existence does nothing to prove that NP does not create an "artificial" monopoly via NDA with game developers. Maybe NP will get sued down the road for patent infringement by these other guys that actually have a patent? That would be ironic. But I speculate. Anyway, it is late here. Must go.

[sigur_ros]

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Yes, computer software protected by copyright law, section 102 of copyright law I repeat here again.

"In no case does copyright protection for an original work of authorship extend to any idea, procedure, process, system, method of operation, concept, principle, or discovery, regardless of the form in which it is described, explained, illustrated, or embodied in such work."