New ideas for "Historic missions" in Sim?

[RuffMonk]

Well I'm about to kick off a historical series with some of the late night arcade crowd that will span 14 different scenarios covering the Battle of Britain from its outbreak up to the nighttime bombing raids of London. I did some research and found the Battle of Britain Historical Society's website that has actual historical breakdowns for each day that detailed aircraft involved, times of day even down to the weather. So check out the link below it was a MAJOR help for my campaign.

http://www.battleofbritain1940.net/contents-index.html

I'm currently looking to cover the Russian invasion from Operation Barbarossa onwards and my research so far hasn't come up with anything other than general info regarding aerial engagements, so if anyone has any resources detailing specific information, I'd REALLY appreciate it.

[MACADEMIC]

Originally Posted by RuffMonk

Well I'm about to kick off a historical series with some of the late night arcade crowd that will span 14 different scenarios covering the Battle of Britain from its outbreak up to the nighttime bombing raids of London. I did some research and found the Battle of Britain Historical Society's website that has actual historical breakdowns for each day that detailed aircraft involved, times of day even down to the weather. So check out the link below it was a MAJOR help for my campaign.

http://www.battleofbritain1940.net/contents-index.html

I'm currently looking to cover the Russian invasion from Operation Barbarossa onwards and my research so far hasn't come up with anything other than general info regarding aerial engagements, so if anyone has any resources detailing specific information, I'd REALLY appreciate it.

Sources would most likely be in German or Russian. With German I can help you translating!

Would love to see the missions you have worked out, although I'm playing in simulator. But if you don't mind we could exchange ideas and missions and modify as required.

MAC

[RuffMonk]

Sounds like a plan! I basically looked through all the battles listed in the website and picked out the most significant battle for each week spanning the first three phases of the battle with one or two having two battles picked out. I then just basically tried to mirror that particular engagement as close as I could. I tried to make the aircraft as proportionally close to the real thing as possible. For example:

Our first battle will be the first engagement on July 10th where 24 Do-17s, 30 Bf-110s and 20+ Bf-109s crossed the Channel and attacked. In game, it will be a Strike mission on the Britain map with 2 He-111s (in place of the Do-17s), 3 Bf-110s and 2 Bf-109s going head to head with 4 Hurricanes and 2 Spitfires (the listed squadrons that engaged the Luftwaffe in that battle). It will be a daytime attack b/c it's listed on the website as 1350 during the rain as the weather called for rain that day according to the site. I even asked the top aces in arcade to fly for the Luftwaffe as a way to somewhat level the skill differences and b/c the Luftwaffe had the better pilots historically.

Another mission I have set is at the outset of phase 2. There was a communication mix up where the first assault was called off and in one particular case only the escorts of Oberst Johannes Fink's bomber group got the message. The Do-17s went on and ultimately had no fighter escort. So one of our missions will mirror this SNAFU where 9 He-111s will tangle with 4 fighters. On the opposite side we'll be doing the same with Blenheims and 109s to recreate Britain's first nighttime bombing raid of Berlin. These are perhaps the ones I'm looking forward to the most as they just scream "Red Skies Over Dover" in the single campaign (one of my favorites). None of these are meant to be competitive and is more for the experience then anything else.

So nothing special on my part here, but I do have some surprises in store for the the RAF guys once phase 2 of the Battle of Britain battles begin that I will pm you about in case some of them visit the site. I don't want to spoil anything, lol!

Anyway, feel free to pick my brain as I will help you as much as I can. I'm also open to suggestions as this will the first time I've organized anything like this and so I'm just making it up as I go along, lmao!!!

[vdomini]

Hello guys!

I've tryed historical mission with mac last weekend was so fun and cool!

hope to do it again!!


have fun!

[McQ59]

I'm working on an idea to launch "Operation Husky" - the invasion of Sicily.

The mission on Canterbury last saturday l think learned us that to get the bombers to be at bit more central in the battle, I want to engage ships as targets and do it in strike-mode. This way the fighters are given an incitament to down them before they get to do theire bombruns.

The general idea is to set it to 1943 and have the german side to scramble He-111 and Stukas at the airfield at Catania. The top-cover will be G2's and F4's, and maybe a cpl of 202's from the Italian airforce.

The allied forces will defend the ships with the aid of P51's and Spits. The thought strategy will be for the mustangs to engage enemy fighters, and the spits to engage enemy bombers.

What do you guys think? Anyone interested in doing a mission like that? If it is, I'll put up a thread with the name "Operation Husky" and follow MACs idea of how to brief it from there...

[Gilly]

I'm in mate. Happy to fly anything.
Regarding the mission briefing I did create one for the one on Saturday in the historic group it's just no one bothered with it obviously (save for those who pre-committed to an aircraft). What Saturday did demonstrate is how lacking sadly BoP is in terms of it's lobbys compared to other titles. Whilst we all know about the necessary 'work arounds' in certain areas of this game, having stubborn 'I'm not leaving, I'm flying an airborne T34 and I'll do my best to spoil it for all' types really wound me up. Having been graced with recent titles whereby idiots are quickly removed and even 'reported' for being idiots it really is one thing that needs to be addressed in any possible sequel.
As much as I really think these historics are a great idea I get the horrible feeling that the pre-lobby (for example using sicily 1943) will end up with B17 and IL's which will either require much messaging to those without headsets or common sense and subsequent frustration for those having to wait. Whilst I agree with the pre-match chat room should cut down on this we saw Saturday how quickly lobby's get 'hijacked'. Sorry not meant to be a downer but having laid out a brief that those who had read it understood it just wound me on Saturday night having to sit until the lobby was correct and then having to deal once in the game with the randoms. I want to play this game for the fun factor and not to have to babysit stubborn morons.

[McQ59]

No problem in seeing what you mean Gilly. If we get a good pre-interesst for doing the "Op Husky" on saturday, the mission will be launched from the text-chat. The number of players in the chat will be the # of players in the lobby. It will be pointed out that no B-17's or Arados or IL's will be given permission to take off.

Let's see if we can do it. It has been done before.

[JOED70]

Yes Gilly again 100% correct.
Funny though when I have met some of these don't understand english or no headset individuals as my alter ego . They seem to have no problem understanding english as they messeged me asking questions. They have come for one reason only to cause trouble . If only thier mothers had changed thier diapers more often or breastfed them longer they would not now suffer from the mental defects that seem to plauge thier cobweb filled skulls.

[vdomini]

Originally Posted by McQ59

I'm working on an idea to launch "Operation Husky" - the invasion of Sicily.

The mission on Canterbury last saturday l think learned us that to get the bombers to be at bit more central in the battle, I want to engage ships as targets and do it in strike-mode. This way the fighters are given an incitament to down them before they get to do theire bombruns.

The general idea is to set it to 1943 and have the german side to scramble He-111 and Stukas at the airfield at Catania. The top-cover will be G2's and F4's, and maybe a cpl of 202's from the Italian airforce.

The allied forces will defend the ships with the aid of P51's and Spits. The thought strategy will be for the mustangs to engage enemy fighters, and the spits to engage enemy bombers.

What do you guys think? Anyone interested in doing a mission like that? If it is, I'll put up a thread with the name "Operation Husky" and follow MACs idea of how to brief it from there...

MC202 pilot reporting ! Ready to take off! An italian plane at last ehehe

[McQ59]

Originally Posted by vdomini

MC202 pilot reporting ! Ready to take off! An italian plane at last ehehe

Absolute great mate!

(Can please anyone who knows how invite this pilote to the social group).