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Old 02-20-2011, 11:41 AM
MACADEMIC MACADEMIC is offline
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Hi McQ,

I have an idea how to solve it. Whoever wants to organize/host such a historical mission starts a thread and occupies say immediately the first two posts for later editing.

First post:
  • Brief Mission outline
  • Time and Date
  • Player Skill Prerequisites
  • Room Size
  • Participants list

Second post:
  • Detailed Briefing
  • Additional materials (pictures, maps, etc.)

I think the trick is to handle this like a mini tournament. You have to make players commited and familar with the rules. And you have to act according to plan - no additional players who have not registered and have been admitted. Stick to the time. Penalize (yes, sorry) players who commit and don't show (e.g. blocked for next event). And it's the organizer who calls the shots, e.g. who will be admitted to participate and who not.

Hope we'll soon see lots of such events spring up, and work.



MAC
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Old 02-20-2011, 12:00 PM
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Good one MAC. I think it might work. It takes a bit of long term planning, but that's okay. The key is the thread to brief the mission, and the discipline to stick to the plan.

Let's see if it is possible. I can't promise to organize the next one, but give me a little time to think about it. I'll be around the forum anyway, so I'll propably throw in some stuff to get it to fly. I have the possibilty to host due to my connection/broadband, so let's see what we can pull off.

And thanks to the players from last night. Well... most of them anyway I had great fun in my E-3 there. The brits put up a good fight!
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Old 02-20-2011, 09:17 PM
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On the subject on map orientation: Would it be a fair compromise for people to only use the in-game map to get to their home base? It'd make for a faster setup of teams.

And as Mac said, we had alot of trouble landing the Spit at Hawkinge. It tips over so easily. We eventually settled for circling the airfield.

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Old 02-21-2011, 07:56 AM
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First of all i'm sorry if I was interrupting the game you had. I knew what was going on, but I wasn't sure that did you have chosen your planes and teams earlier.

At the first try I was shot down couple of times before I even made to the hawkings airfield. I was little frustrated and left that match. For the next one, I was in the lobby and after a while I saw the room was full and some guys with mic was not in so I decided to leave and left room for them.

It's good idea to preorganise the game here in forum and then meet in textchat before the lobby is made. Then reorganise if someone is not showing up. I personally don't think any penalties are good thing, because this eventually is only a videogame and it should be more fun than anything else. Different thing is in tournaments, there some penalties are must.
And for using map, I had to check where the hell is that hawkings airfield
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Old 02-21-2011, 08:58 AM
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Hi Mage,

Sorry if I misrepresented you in my post. I also don't think that you were the problem.

About penalties, okay perhaps it's taking it too far, but I still think scheduled events are a good idea.

How about this: for each historic mission a thread is created. If this mission proves popular, we can ask the moderators to make it a sticky. On this thread we ask community members who would like to play this game to give a statement that they have read and understood the mission and have done all necessary training and familiarisation to make themselves proficient for the mission. The thread starter can then keep the list of eligible players up to date in the first posting of his thread.

This way missions could be started either scheduled or even spontaneously, if enough qualified players are online. It would also create a pool of qualified players who could fill in when someone cannot attend. Again, I would recommend to start from text chat.

So long,

MAC

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Old 02-21-2011, 10:03 AM
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No worries Mage. You weren't even close to be the problem last saturday night. Your neighbour in east was the loose cannon and caused us some delays there.

I totally go for the compromises Zhang suggests in the post above, and the suggestions from both Mage and MAC on how to organize the next mission(s).

I have tried to do some thinking on how to improve the conditions for the missions that involves bombers, and how to do it a bit more interesting for the bomberguys. It seemed that the fighters involved in the Battle of Britain were more or less uninterested in attacking the bombers - and intercepted the 109's instead. What if we put up a mission on one of the maps that involves ships; Britain or Sicily, and the task is of course for the bombers to damage/sink the ship(s). If we put limits on wich bombers to use (not the Arado or the B-17. They inflict to much damage to fast) it might be possible to have a progress in the mission that makes it fun for everyone involved. The 3-4 bombers task is a mentioned to bomb the ships, they got top-cover from 3-4 fighters and will be intercepted by 6-8 enemy fighters.

The goal is not to win by tickets, but to improve skills and have fun trying to do the job. And of course to be the last bird flying... and return to base.

If you guys think this is a mission you could take part in, I'll establish a thread for it - and schedule the time and map, and try to organize it for the upcoming saturday due to the suggestions that has come up to improve the feasibility.

Suggested allied bombers: A20 or Blenheims
Suggested german bombers: He-111 or Stukas

German fighters: G-2 or F-4, 190's. I guess the italian 202's can be used too (by the real highrisktakers).
Allied fighters: Hurricanes, Mk. IX and Mustangs.

These should be regarded only as suggestions. I'm very open to other ideas to improve and increase the fun-factor!

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