Freetrack interface use in IL-2:CoD

[Blackdog_kt]

W-R, let's not regurgitate the other thread here. You know, the one where we reached a consensus that if more games offer native support for alternative head trackers in the form of a generic 6-axis interface, then the alternative trackers won't need to use "hacked" naturalpoint dll files.

This poll might be wrongly worded in that it only mentions freetrack, but please let's all use it as an indication for the community's wish to include support for alternative head tracking in general, instead of as a stepping stone to sidetrack the discussion into what constitutes hacking.

This poll should be about extra options, it shouldn't be about "freetrack rules/sucks" or "are you a hacker?yes/no".

[Wolf_Rider]

Originally Posted by Blackdog_kt

W-R, let's not regurgitate the other thread here. You know, the one where we reached a consensus that if more games offer native support for alternative head trackers in the form of a generic 6-axis interface, then the alternative trackers won't need to use "hacked" naturalpoint dll files.

Mate, you just said exactly the same I did in the post you're referring to, though I don't know you extrapolated the "are you a hacker, yes/ no?" from it.

Yes, the poll is poorly worded and there is as clear a consensus on that as there is on games supporting alternative headtracking to TrackIR. There's no mistaking it.
As well, a community instability/ split was pointed out... yes, there is that and what the crux of that instability/ split is, was pointed out.
Let's be clear about it, that is what what the instability/ split is , isn't it... the right to hack or protect, yes?


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The poll as it is, forces a yes/ no response for one product and the results of which would be used more than likely mischieviously to prove a point of view, if only taken as such. At least the comments contained here reflect at least the voter's intention for their vote,.

[Sokol1]

I have a TrackIR4 - cost me ~U$ 270,00! Vote for CoD support for Freetrack and others HeadTrack alternatives too.

Sokol1

[swiss]

$270? Holy cow - when was that?

[Ernst]

Originally Posted by swiss

$270? Holy cow - when was that?

This because TIR is not worldwide distributed and he had to import it or buy from someone who imported, paying international mail and more taxes to the government. More the gain of the one who imported if they adquired this way. Here we pay 60% (for imported procuts, except printed material (books, magazines etc), this case 0%) over the product and over the shiping expenses. This is ~ $270. This is called "Zil Zil Zil Zil cost".


P.S.: If Oleg distribute CoD worldwide via download we ll not pay 60% over it, only ~ 3% over the credit card bill. This is the tax over the money going outside the country.

[Wolf_Rider]

If you don't mind me asking, what country is this you mean?






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Originally Posted by swiss

$270? Holy cow - when was that?

That's around what they (TIR4 Pro) were down here in OZ (iirc) when they first came out. They go for around AUD/US$150 now. TIR5 can be imported to OZ direct from NP for approximately AUD/US$224 and can be found locally from between AUD/US$220 ~ 350, depending on outlet and if it is the Pro or clip version and includes tax. One thing OZ does as far as overseas buying goes (and duty free) is there is AUD/US$1,000 threshold before tax kicks in. That puts the buyer into possible Grey Market and is a can of worms in itself. Shipping method though can wipeout any tax savings.

[ElAurens]

Sounds like Brazil.

One of the Pigs is from there and getting any good sim gear is a real challenge.