New video 2011-02-13 WITH SOUND!

[winny]

Originally Posted by Sutts

You seem to know your stuff winny, I'll take your word for it.

Out of interest, what kind of ammo do you think is leaving those smoke trails in the photo I posted?

I'm pretty sure they will be Mk IV incendiaries as they ignited on firing and burned on the way to the target leaving smoke trails. The later Mk VI 'De Wilde' ignited on impact and didn't leave a smoke trail.

The 'De Wilde' bullets were first issued in June 1940 and tested operationally in the air battles over Dunkirk. Their improved effectiveness, and the fact that the flash on impact indicated that the shooting was on target, was much appreciated by the pilots.
There was an initial shortage of these which is why I gave the 2 loadouts for BoB era. (I got my MkIV and VI's mixed up earlier!)

[Sutts]

Originally Posted by winny

I'm pretty sure they will be Mk IV incendiaries as they ignited on firing and burned on the way to the target leaving smoke trails. The later Mk VI 'De Wilde' ignited on impact and didn't leave a smoke trail.

The 'De Wilde' bullets were first issued in June 1940 and tested operationally in the air battles over Dunkirk. Their improved effectiveness, and the fact that the flash on impact indicated that the shooting was on target, was much appreciated by the pilots.
There was an initial shortage of these which is why I gave the 2 loadouts for BoB era. (I got my MkIV and VI's mixed up earlier!)

OK, that makes sense. Thanks for clearing that up winny.

I think a lot of us might be confusing the early incendiary with tracer rounds. Now I understand.

Cheers

[B25Mitch]

I agree with those who found the crash impressive, but I must add that it should be the scattered pieces of wreckage that are smoking afterwards, not some neat little crater in the ground.

[Zorin]

Well sorry, both videos had a crashing bomber and both impacts/explosions are rather underwhelming in my humble opinion.

These are explosions in Il-2 WITHOUT mods and now you tell me where the difference is.

[winny]

Originally Posted by Sutts

OK, that makes sense. Thanks for clearing that up winny.

I think a lot of us might be confusing the early incendiary with tracer rounds. Now I understand.

Cheers

I'm quite hapy for someone to correct any of this btw. I got most of it from a book called 'Air Guns of WWII' which seems pretty reliable.

Purley out of interest here's a picture of the types of RAF .303 Ammo..



From left to right : Tracer, armour-piercing and B Mk VI incendiary (Dixon/De Wilde)

[luthier]

Just so you guys know, this is a rare case of a true leak, i.e. not a marketing ploy but a real rogue user doing something really lame for self-promotion.

The stuff you're seeing is obviously from a beta, not indicative of release, and I'm really way too upset to address this in a calm manner at this time.

The person who leaked this is a personal friend of one of our programmers. I anticipated exactly this kind of issue, Oleg warned me about this specifically. The programmer asked us to give his buddy beta access as a personal favor to him, and I in turn took the responsibility on myself. I got chewed up for this big time, and I'm seriously considering letting the programmer go. It goes without saying that the author's beta access is revoked, and I'm cutting all further communication with him.

We caught this a bit too late, by which time it was way too late to try to delete it, so we'll let you guys continue discussing it but probably won't check the thread or respond to anything related to these videos.

We'll release final gameplay videos once we go gold, where you can judge the features that are shipping with release.

[Royraiden]

Originally Posted by luthier

Just so you guys know, this is a rare case of a true leak, i.e. not a marketing ploy but a real rogue user doing something really lame for self-promotion.

The stuff you're seeing is obviously from a beta, not indicative of release, and I'm really way too upset to address this in a calm manner at this time.

The person who leaked this is a personal friend of one of our programmers. I anticipated exactly this kind of issue, Oleg warned me about this specifically. The programmer asked us to give his buddy beta access as a personal favor to him, and I in turn took the responsibility on myself. I got chewed up for this big time, and I'm seriously considering letting the programmer go. It goes without saying that the author's beta access is revoked, and I'm cutting all further communication with him.

We caught this a bit too late, by which time it was way too late to try to delete it, so we'll let you guys continue discussing it but probably won't check the thread or respond to anything related to these videos.

We'll release final gameplay videos once we go gold, where you can judge the features that are shipping with release.

Oh wow!Thats a shame!!!Thanks for letting us know what happened.

[T}{OR]

I am sorry that it has come to this. Just goes to show you can't be too careful nowadays. Thanks for sharing this info.

[Jg2001_Rasputin]

I already wondered if this guy has the permission to post those videos.

[Royraiden]

Originally Posted by Jg2001_Rasputin

I already wondered if this guy has the permission to post those videos.

It seemed quite suspicious but I just thought it was part of the devs plan.Sad thing,the element of surprise is quite ruined for some of the details on this videos.