Hotas setup for the upcoming Cliffs of Dover

Sorry, thinking of the Saitek X-52, It's the warthog that had the throttles that arrived DOA or died early, not the spiking.

[Sokol1]

There's no problem with X-52 pots (rudder, throttle, trim) when is new - only after some use (~1 year).

Problem is with G940 throttle and trims (reverse bug) - apparently due short internal cables.

Sokol1

[Chivas]

I have a set of Saitek Pro Rudder pedals that work just fine. I've been trying to find a joystick to replace my no longer supported MSFF2 over the last few years. Starting from the Cougar, CH Fighterstick, Logitech G940, and Thrustmaster Warthog. None of them work as well as the Microsoft stick. I thought the G940 was greatly improved with the last drivers and firmware, but after a month or so I went back to the MSFF2 and was instantly a much better flyer and marksmen.

The CH Fighterstick will last you along time I just didn't like the clunky gimbal setup travelling thru the xy axis.

The original Cougar was like turning a tree trunk still routed to the ground.

The new Thrustmaster Warthog was exceedingly smooth except travelling thru center. All these sticks couldn't compare to the smoothness and accuracy of the MSFF2.

I currently use the Cougar throttle and Saitek Pro Rudders, with the MSFF2.

[Royraiden]

Originally Posted by Chivas

I have a set of Saitek Pro Rudder pedals that work just fine. I've been trying to find a joystick to replace my no longer supported MSFF2 over the last few years. Starting from the Cougar, CH Fighterstick, Logitech G940, and Thrustmaster Warthog. None of them work as well as the Microsoft stick. I thought the G940 was greatly improved with the last drivers and firmware, but after a month or so I went back to the MSFF2 and was instantly a much better flyer and marksmen.

The CH Fighterstick will last you along time I just didn't like the clunky gimbal setup travelling thru the xy axis.

The original Cougar was like turning a tree trunk still routed to the ground.

The new Thrustmaster Warthog was exceedingly smooth except travelling thru center. All these sticks couldn't compare to the smoothness and accuracy of the MSFF2.

I currently use the Cougar throttle and Saitek Pro Rudders, with the MSFF2.

At last some info on the the Saitek pedals.For how long have you used them?If they seem to last then Im sold for the Saiteks.

[Chivas]

The Saitek Pro Rudders have been used for atleast a couple of years with problems, The toe brakes work great and I like their wide stance, and tension adjustment. I do not like the Saitek software for the toe brakes which is totally counter intuitive.

[Royraiden]

Originally Posted by Chivas

The Saitek Pro Rudders have been used for atleast a couple of years with problems, The toe brakes work great and I like their wide stance, and tension adjustment. I do not like the Saitek software for the toe brakes which is totally counter intuitive.

With problems or without?I guess you meant without.Can you use them without the software?Saitek software seems to be quite infamous.

[swiss]

Originally Posted by Royraiden

?Saitek software seems to be quite infamous.

Experienced some problems with it under XP(BSOD) - with 7 it so rocks.

[Chivas]

Originally Posted by Royraiden

With problems or without?I guess you meant without.Can you use them without the software?Saitek software seems to be quite infamous.

Yes I meant without problems, and yes you can use them without the software. The rudders are well made, but I wouldn't recommend an X52 joystick. Your best option is a MSFF2 which you can still pickup new on ebay, barring that the CH products are well built and will last forever.

There are some Microsoft SideWinder Precision 2 Joystick for USB Port on ebay ranging for 9 dollars and 39 dollars used and I think a couple of new ones ranging from 75 to 150 dollars.

[roadczar]

Originally Posted by Chivas

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The new Thrustmaster Warthog was exceedingly smooth except travelling thru center. All these sticks couldn't compare to the smoothness and accuracy of the MSFF2.

I currently use the Cougar throttle and Saitek Pro Rudders, with the MSFF2.

Hey Chivas it's been a while!

So you like MSFF2 better than Warthog? What happened to your Warthog setup?

[Chivas]

Originally Posted by roadczar

Hey Chivas it's been a while!

So you like MSFF2 better than Warthog? What happened to your Warthog setup?

Hey road...good ta cya

The Warthog was a beautiful peice of kit, and the ball joint (non gimbal system) was exceptionally smooth. Except while traveling thru center where there was a considerable change in force required. I also had some flaky buttons on the throttle so I descided to send it back and maybe purchase another in a year or so if they update the stick.

Unfortunately I still can't find a joystick better than the MSFF2, combined with the Cougar throttle and Saitek Pro rudders.