Friday 2011-01-21 Dev. update and Discussion

[Lensman_1]

Originally Posted by HenFre

I think this is the best movie from IL-2 Sturmovik: CoD that I have seen so far:

Watch the movie in HD and look at how the Cliffs of Dover rise up and how great the overall terrain looks..

Good as it is I can't help noticing an obscene amount of video stuttering and the eventual total lockup of the PC. It's running VERY roughly on that machine. Also the inputs to the stick seem to have far less effect on the aircraft than I would expect.

Having said that: what impressed me most was the shadows in and around the cockpit. Note the port wing with the shadow of the Hurricane's canopy on it and the dynamic shadows in the canopy glass and the console. Sweet!

I hope a lot as changed since then and i believe it has, Luthier said they have optimised the game since this beta which is good news, the whole games starts to lock up as soon as the land comes into view and you can see how objects start to draw themselves as they come into view just like they did in Il2.

[LukeFF]

Originally Posted by Hypernova

Terrible. Terrible. Stuttering kills everything. Immersion, playability, dynamics etc.. It made me think about those flight simulators 20 years ago when having this level of stutter was synonymous of excellent performance.
Now it is simply a game killer. Either you have perfectly fluid motion (say with a top tier rig) or don't bother put it on sale. CGI are perfectly fluid on consoles, no way that on PC we have any type of stutter.

Do you really think Oleg would be dumb enough to release a game that stuttered constantly?

Originally Posted by LukeFF

Do you really think Oleg would be dumb enough to release a game that stuttered constantly?

Oleg wouldn't, but UBI is another story.

[Gromic]

IIRC that setting was on max and the hosting I5-750 PC only equipped with 2GB RAM. That stuttering is due to the low RAM and loading issues.

AFAIK it's been stated that 1C has already increased speeds with some of the optimization that has been done. In a nutshell, the more RAM, the better (assuming that's not your bottleneck).

We'll see

Cheers

[Blackdog_kt]

They ran an unoptimized version of the game at max detail on below minimum specs PCs at that expo (CPU and GPU were fine, but RAM was below specs). Stuttering or not, it was playable enough to be shown that way in a gaming expo.

Just in case someone got confused, let me point out the important bits again:

Unoptimized version.

At full detail.

On a below minimum specs PC.

I guess that if the PCs had 3-4GB or RAM instead of just 2GB, it wouldn't need to buffer-read from the hard disk all the time and would be smooth enough. I also guess that after 2-3 months of pre-release debugging and optimization, the version we will have in our hands will be somewhat better still.

You know, it's amazing how much cause for alarm can be avoided if we take the time to put 2 and 2 together.
And while i can see that newcomers to the forum would not know about certain pieces of information to deduce all that, i can't understand why old-timers who post here multiple times every day would miss the same info.

[Lensman_1]

Originally Posted by Blackdog_kt

Unoptimized version.
At full detail.
On a below minimum specs PC.

I guess that if the PCs had 3-4GB or RAM instead of just 2GB, it wouldn't need to buffer-read from the hard disk all the time and would be smooth enough. I also guess that after 2-3 months of pre-release debugging and optimization, the version we will have in our hands will be somewhat better still.

I reckon that my 12Gb of RAM might suffice then.
It's interesting to note that the first time I ran IL-2 many years ago (at something like 1024 x 768 ) it all but crippled my PC because of the required resource and my PC was quick for 2001/2. Now I'm running it with everything full on and at 1920 x 1200 and it hardly even raises the tempertures of my GPUs. Such is progress. It'll be fascinating to see if COD can stress a contemporary capable PC like IL-2 once did!

[Igo kyu]

Originally Posted by Lensman_1

I reckon that my 12Gb of RAM might suffice then.
It's interesting to note that the first time I ran IL-2 many years ago (at something like 1024 x 768 ) it all but crippled my PC because of the required resource and my PC was quick for 2001/2. Now I'm running it with everything full on and at 1920 x 1200 and it hardly even raises the tempertures of my GPUs. Such is progress. It'll be fascinating to see if COD can stress a contemporary capable PC like IL-2 once did!

In 2000 I built a new PC. It had an Athlon 1GHz, a GeForce 2 GT/Pro 64MB and 256 MB of RAM. I already had a nice Hansol monitor capable of 1600x1200 but my 486 at 66MHz couldn't display more than 1024x(768?) on it. I played CFS on the Athlon before I bought Sturmovik, but at 1600x1200 neither stuttered. That was a high end system, particularly the graphics, you could buy faster Athlons at that time. I have little doubt that a high end system today will run Cliffs of Dover very nicely, but that might mean Sandy Bridge, and it might mean SLIed GTX 580s, or crossfired HD 6990s anything less is only mid-range.

I'm going to have to upgrade my system , but I expect it to run Cliffs of Dover okay for now, even though it's not top notch any more (and it's not still that 2000ad Athlon).