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Old 01-26-2011, 08:41 AM
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Why then does the p47 D have a supercharger lever in the throttle quadrant that never moves?

I have flown the jug at high altitude a ton... just tonight I was at 35k feet and was not able to attain anymore than 30 inches of MP. That was with a leaned pitch setting to about 80%. I even tried it at max RPM and it didnt help.

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That's IL2's way of simulating that the turbo has reached it's maximum RPM and therefore the aircraft's critical altitude.
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Old 01-26-2011, 01:17 PM
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Speaking of P-47...AFAIK it's still the only prop plane in the game that can actually brake Mach 1 in a dive, that's a bit silly and should also be fixed.
The ThunderSabre lol
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Old 01-26-2011, 06:27 PM
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Speaking of P-47...AFAIK it's still the only prop plane in the game that can actually brake Mach 1 in a dive, that's a bit silly and should also be fixed.
The ThunderSabre lol
AFAIK I have never reached over 700 MPH at sea level in a jug. Even at a 90 degree dive angle I have never reached 600 MPH w/o breaking pieces of the aircraft off... Vital pieces.

The fastest you can go in a jug in a dive is about 550 IAS, which should be around 650 or so in TAS which is still short of mach 1 at sea level. Just last night a freaking 190D-9 was able to follow me in this dive w/o breaking up. Therefore, the jug is not the only plane that can dive consistently at that speed.
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Old 01-26-2011, 10:37 PM
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AFAIK I have never reached over 700 MPH at sea level in a jug. Even at a 90 degree dive angle I have never reached 600 MPH w/o breaking pieces of the aircraft off... Vital pieces.

The fastest you can go in a jug in a dive is about 550 IAS, which should be around 650 or so in TAS which is still short of mach 1 at sea level. Just last night a freaking 190D-9 was able to follow me in this dive w/o breaking up. Therefore, the jug is not the only plane that can dive consistently at that speed.
Well I dived a few planes on Crimea map from 10 000m strait down to see what's maximum TAS.
Now since I don't know exactly at which altitude and what speed in kmh mach is reached I took 1224kmh as that is equal to Mach 1 at SeaLevel just to be totally sure, the only plane that got over 1200kmh TAS was P-47D(I managed 1250 before brake-up) they all broke up at roughly 3000m.
I tried with P-51D, 190D9,109k4, MkIX and P-47 ofcourse, several time.

However since all of them went past 1100 it's possible all of them are very close or even over Mach 1 but P-47 was like I said the only one to pass 1200kmh.

All in all I kinda remember TD mentioned something on compression effects and max mach numbers so I'll refrase my wish to:
"Fix insane dive speed ability in game on all planes - please"

I hope that one sounds better
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Old 01-27-2011, 01:09 AM
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Confirmed, I just took the jug (p-47D) from 10 000m to near sea level and reached just above 1200km/h TAS before breaking up, so I think dives may be a little out of whack. I don't know if this is because there is no compressibility modeled, but AFAIK the in-game p-38 suffers from this.

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Old 01-27-2011, 03:35 AM
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Confirmed, I just took the jug (p-47D) from 10 000m to near sea level and reached just above 1200km/h TAS before breaking up, so I think dives may be a little out of whack. I don't know if this is because there is no compressibility modeled, but AFAIK the in-game p-38 suffers from this.
Conclusion is clear... finally can we have a fix for P-38, please?

Please get rid of the ridiculous compressibility for P-38, either that (which is minor fix I think) or please put all others on compress list too... as it is now it is not fair.

My only request.
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Old 01-27-2011, 03:47 AM
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Not to mention proper climb performance for P-38s.
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Old 01-27-2011, 07:42 AM
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If I remeber it right, P38 suffered from this control compressibility until version with dive flaps came out. At somecase you could recover from dive with trim or by the help of denser air in lower altitude, but anyway steep dives were not prohibeted on P38. After 1943 problem was removed with dive flaps, if I recall.

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Conclusion is clear... finally can we have a fix for P-38, please?

Please get rid of the ridiculous compressibility for P-38, either that (which is minor fix I think) or please put all others on compress list too... as it is now it is not fair.

My only request.
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Old 01-27-2011, 11:08 AM
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Conclusion is clear... finally can we have a fix for P-38, please?

Please get rid of the ridiculous compressibility for P-38, either that (which is minor fix I think) or please put all others on compress list too... as it is now it is not fair.

My only request.


Where is it ingame?
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