Hotas setup for the upcoming Cliffs of Dover

[Ltbear]

Originally Posted by Matt255

No problems whatsoever (only used it with IL2, WoP and RoF). I really liked it alot, even though it does feel a bit too plasticy for its price.

But if it didn't have that spiking problem, i would still use it for some axes atleast. The concept is excellent, three levers and a few buttons, plus the ability to attach it to your table and combine multiple units. Too bad that the quality doesn't live up to that.

I used the FFB2 with the X52 throttle and Simped pedals.

I've replaced the FFB2 and X52 throttle with the Warthog in november. I can recommend both the FFB2 and the X52 throttle aswell, both worked very well for me.

Im stil a FFB2 and X52 user, the stick is from 2002 and stil going strong....Im actualy one of those who power shopped when i heard they would stop production and stil have 4 new ones stored (FFB2)lol....

With COD i will go with some hardware upgrades, multithrottle etc..track IR will deffently take over the pan mouse thing on the X52. Not sure what to get yet since im upscaling the hardware from a FFB2 so i can mount a chair on it and have a FFB cocpit lol....

LTbear

[JG53Frankyboy]

i also plan to 'upgrade' my flygear by adding a HOTAS throttle to my M$ FFB2 for CoD !

so,with the throttles of X65F and X52pro it is working.
they connect themsleves, have thier own USB cabel, to the PC AFAIK
with the throttle of the G940 too?
is the throttle of the G940 not connected to the Joystick ?

[kingpinda]

Originally Posted by JG53Frankyboy

i also plan to 'upgrade' my flygear by adding a HOTAS throttle to my M$ FFB2 for CoD !

so,with the throttles of X65F and X52pro it is working.
they connect themsleves, have thier own USB cabel, to the PC AFAIK
with the throttle of the G940 too?
is the throttle of the G940 not connected to the Joystick ?

Yes. Only 1 usb goes from joystick to pc. 2 nine-pins go from throttle and rudder to the base of the joystick. They look like old game-port or vga pins. So if you just want to use the throttle from the g940 you need to connect the joystick also and hide it under your desk or so. Maybe though you would be able to connect the 9-pin to something... Don't know.

Originally Posted by kingpinda

Yes. Only 1 usb goes from joystick to pc. 2 nine-pins go from throttle and rudder to the base of the joystick. They look like old game-port or vga pins. So if you just want to use the throttle from the g940 you need to connect the joystick also and hide it under your desk or so. Maybe though you would be able to connect the 9-pin to something... Don't know.

I think that Logitech missed the boat on that one. They should all have USB connectors so that they could have sold the rudder/throttle/stick together or as seperate packages for people who don't want the whole thing. You could still plug them all into one another then into the PC (requiring only one connection) but the option would be there to mix and match.

[Royraiden]

SH#T!!! The Combatstick is no longer in stock at newegg,the ch rudder pedal are also all gone.Things are not looking good for me.Do you happen to know how fast they restock items like those?Cliffs of Dover announcement seemed to had a direct effect on ch product sales lol.

[ghodan]

Originally Posted by Royraiden

SH#T!!! The Combatstick is no longer in stock at newegg,the ch rudder pedal are also all gone.Things are not looking good for me.Do you happen to know how fast they restock items like those?Cliffs of Dover announcement seemed to had a direct effect on ch product sales lol.

Yeah, if only CH products would hurry up with launching a new generation hotas.
They told me they are not going to launch a new gaming product in 2010.
but its 2011 now.
Maybe it helps if you all post asking for a possible month,quarter,year estimate for a new hotas launch:
http://www.ch-hangar.com/forum/showt...cts-2010/page4

I would like to buy the CH fighterstick (combat stick is almost impossible to get around here and fighterstick has more "buttons") and throttle quad.
But i dont like the CH pro throttle: Almost no resistance and flat travel.And no rotary's.
And the CH pedals while very reliable and strong look to small for me compared to saitek pedals, specially the new combat pedals.

What i want most is a new CH hotas and new CH pedals (so not current models)
2nd option for me would be Logitech G940. Complete package for nice price and has force feedback.
3rd option would be Warthog with Saitek combat pedals... expansive combo. And i am afraid of quality issue on the hog. And Saitek is known for quick spiking pots?
I will wait just before or after launch to see if CH products announce something.

I own a unmodded cougar now and a Saitek X45 + Saitek throttle quadrant.

[madrebel]

Originally Posted by ghodan

But i dont like the CH pro throttle: Almost no resistance and flat travel.And no rotary's.

this

//---------------------------------------------------------------
//Mini Stick Rotary TRIM
//---------------------------------------------------------------

// Rudder Iinitial Centering
IF( FIRSTSCAN ) THEN
CMS.A2 = 128;
CMS.A1 = 128;
A1 = 128; //CONTROL VALUE FOR CMS.A2 (128 TO 0)
A2 = 128; //CONTROL VALUE FOR CMS.A2 (128 TO 255)
A3 = 128; //CONTROL VALUE FOR CMS.A1 (128 TO 0)
A4 = 128; //CONTROL VALUE FOR CMS.A1 (128 TO 255)
A10 = 50; // THIS IS THE INCREMENTAL FACTOR FOR Y AXIS. THE HIGHER THE SLOWER MOVEMENT THRU AXIS
ENDIF

A20 = 0; // Y AXIS
A30 = 0; // X AXIS

IF ([JS2.A2-128 < 0]) THEN A20 = -1* (JS2.A2 - 128);
ELSE
A20 = (JS2.A2-128); // Y AXIS
ENDIF

IF ([JS2.A1-128 < 0]) THEN A30 = -1* (JS2.A1-128);
ELSE
A30 = (JS2.A1-128); //X AXIS
ENDIF
// Y AXIS
IF ([A20 > A30]) THEN
CMS.A1 = CMS.A1;
SEQUENCE
WHILE ([JS2.A2 < A1] AND [JS2.A2 <=121]);
IF ([CMS.A2 + (JS2.A2 - 128)/A10 < 0]) THEN CMS.A2 = 0;
ELSE
CMS.A2= CMS.A2 + (JS2.A2 - 128)/A10;
ENDIF
delay(1);
IF ([JS2.A2 >= 121] AND [JS2.A2 < 135]) THEN
A1=0;
ELSE
IF ([JS2.A2 > A1]) THEN A1 = A1;
ELSE
A1= JS2.A2;
ENDIF
ENDIF
ENDSEQUENCE
A1=128;
SEQUENCE
WHILE ([JS2.A2 > A2] AND [JS2.A2 >= 135]);
IF ([CMS.A2 + (JS2.A2 - 128)/A10 > 255]) THEN CMS.A2 = 255;
ELSE
CMS.A2= CMS.A2 + (JS2.A2 - 128)/A10;
ENDIF
delay(1);
IF ([JS2.A2 >= 121] AND [JS2.A2 <= 135]) THEN
A2= 255;
ELSE
IF ([JS2.A2 < A2]) THEN A2 = A2;
ELSE
A2= JS2.A2;
ENDIF
ENDIF
ENDSEQUENCE
A2=128;
ENDIF
// X AXIS
IF ([A20 < A30]) THEN
CMS.A2 = CMS.A2;
SEQUENCE
WHILE ([JS2.A1 < A3] AND [JS2.A1 <=121]);
IF ([CMS.A1 + (JS2.A1 - 128)/A10 < 0]) THEN CMS.A1 = 0;
ELSE
CMS.A1= CMS.A1 + (JS2.A1 - 128)/A10;
ENDIF
delay(1);
IF ([JS2.A1 >= 121] AND [JS2.A1 < 135]) THEN
A3=0;
ELSE
IF ([JS2.A1 > A1]) THEN A3 = A3;
ELSE
A3= JS2.A1;
ENDIF
ENDIF
ENDSEQUENCE
A3=128;
SEQUENCE
WHILE ([JS2.A1 > A4] AND [JS2.A1 >= 135]);
IF ([CMS.A1 + (JS2.A1 - 128)/A10 > 255]) THEN CMS.A1 = 255;
ELSE
CMS.A1= CMS.A1 + (JS2.A1 - 128)/A10;
ENDIF
delay(1);
IF ([JS2.A1 >= 121] AND [JS2.A1 <= 135]) THEN
A4= 255;
ELSE
IF ([JS2.A1 < A2]) THEN A4 = A4;
ELSE
A4= JS2.A1;
ENDIF
ENDIF
ENDSEQUENCE
A4=128;
ENDIF


if (js1.b10) then cms.a2 = 128;  //button to center axis 2
endif

if (js1.b8) then cms.a1 = 128;   //button to center axis 1
endif

turns the mini stick into basically a two way rotary. you need to set a decent sized dead band as the mini sticks are notoriously bad at centering but this is just as responsive as my old x45s rotaries. the other thing you need to do is unmap the ministick completely (dx axis = none) then go into the cms controls tab and set cms 1 and cms 2 as cm device1 axis', mine are set to U and V axis.

everyone always complains about the rotaries, well, the above gives you rotaries.