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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

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Old 01-18-2011, 09:54 AM
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And flying pencil... you need to go outside more often and think about something else than this new game`s title... im amazed by how much effort you go through to state your objection to it...

face it... its COD.

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Old 01-18-2011, 02:09 PM
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If Oleg wants to name the sim Storm of War but can't, then the odds of us being able to get the name changed are pretty slim.
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Old 01-18-2011, 02:50 PM
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Yes, the IL-2 title is a bad name...
First when I saw it last week, I thougth
"great so it's just a boosted IL-2++ ? I thought it was a brand new engine...
It's true we have seen some screens with interface similar to IL2, and the clouds come from IL2 too... so what's really new there ? just some graphics and a lot less content ?"

Ok, I read this forum every week so I know the engine is really new, I know the clouds and dynamic weather may not be in initial release...
But how much people read this forum regularly ? less than 2 or 3 thousand i'm pretty sure of that... since we reach around 150 viewers on friday updates, I think i'm seeing large here

So how are the others gonna react ?

Not mentionning the problem with Call of Duty...

putting a "from the makers of the never dying IL-2 Sturmovik series" is good enough, confusing people is not a good idea, a confused customer is not going to buy anything...

I don't care of the name (but I liked SoW), but it just should not be IL2 (that game already exists, and it's 10 years old), or the same acronym of a world wide known game serie (8 years old)

Why change the name now ? when all specialized press knows this game under Storm of War ?
Could it be because of this ? http://www.amazon.co.uk/Storm-War-Hi.../dp/0713999705 (or anything similar...)
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Old 01-18-2011, 02:52 PM
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In a discussion here about a year ago. Oleg indicated that the title would possibly be changed. Maybe CoD was his idea, and not one that came from ubi.
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Old 01-18-2011, 05:17 PM
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How long does it have to take before people settle down with/realize that it's part namechange, part marketing. Imagine gamers searching Google for CoD. IMO it's a brilliant idea to catch the casual flight simmers that may not even have heard of this game yet.
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CoD = Call of Duty?
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Old 01-18-2011, 07:23 PM
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CoD = Call of Duty?
Cliffs of Dover. Confusing isn't it?
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Old 01-18-2011, 07:25 PM
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From the marketing point of view, the name is a good choice.

Nothing more, nothing less.
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Old 01-19-2011, 08:11 AM
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Guys, let's not point fingers and argue about what name is best from an aesthetic (and thus, purely subjective) point of view.

I don't care what the name is as long as:
1) It makes it clear that it's a game about flying airplanes in WWII, possibly making a mention of the sub-setting/theater of operations and
2) There's a small piece of text that makes it even clearer that it's made by the guys who made IL2 BUT it's completely new from the ground up and definitely not part of the original 10 year old series.

My humble opinion is that if we want something done about it, it will need to be done just as a way to ensure better market penetration, as in "dear 1c team, we your fans fear you might lose some sales because of this" and not in a manner of "omg,lolz, this is a stupid title, plx change". I'm exaggerating here and ending up being a wannabe forum comedian with a bad taste in jokes, but you get my drift

If there's a case to be presented to the devs and most importantly the publishers, it will have to be done this way. "Sirs, this might cost you money" would be enough to grab their attention.

Why do we care? Because we want a game that will sell well enough so that we can see expansions in the future.

Let's not complicate things any further than they have to be. If the community here is concerned about the title and wants to start a vote/poll or whatever let's start from the basic stuff instead of individually giving our own example. I'm sure that if it can be changed in the 2 months until release and we make the publisher realize what kind of title would be fitting for the game, they would have enough people getting paid to come up with a better name.

The issue is not if or how much i like the name, but the two numbered points i made above and this:

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3 months from now:

"I just bought Pacific Fighters, but it won't install into Cliffs of Dover.
Nor 1946 either. I tried buying the Complete Edition just to save trouble, but I can't even find CoD in it! Help please.

BTW, what is a Storm of Vik?"
This has all the potential to give someone who's new to the series a bit of a headache for the first couple of days, while it is in the sims and our own best interest that the first impression be as positive as possible.

We want it to install and play fine right out of the box with no or minimal hassle involved so that everyone can spend their time going "oooh" and "aaaah" and "did you see that?! amazing!" for the first few hours/days, without the slightest bit of sour taste involved in the process.

And guess what, Oleg Maddox and his team want and need the same thing. Heck, even Ubi wants it.
Just because they make a killing with other titles doesn't mean they want even one of their published games to do poorly, no matter how much of a niche genre it is in.
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Old 01-19-2011, 02:55 PM
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"My concern would be that people might think its just another addon for tired old IL-2, when its actually a brand spanking new game."

About this aspect, the "official" trailer is rather confusing.
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