The new bomb fuzing needs to be an option.

[ElAurens]

I was just online on my Test Center map with Monguse and several other experienced pilots.

Yes we could kill ships via skip bombing on occasion, but the randomness of it is just so wrong. Same bomb dropped from different aircraft even at equal speed/altitude failed to arm. I lost count of how many bombs I saw make good hits and not go off. A failure rate so high that it is beyond belief.

Once you add in enemy fire, which we did not have, and air opposition, there is no way you will even begin to approach historical success rates in the sim.

And all because the bombs stop arming if they hit the water too soon. It's the wrong approach. It needs to be changed.

On the other hand, torpedo drops can be gotten down to an utter science, nearly 100% success rates for drops and arming. Now this will go down with enemy action of course, as it should.

[Wutz]

Originally Posted by ElAurens

I was just online on my Test Center map with Monguse and several other experienced pilots.

Yes we could kill ships via skip bombing on occasion, but the randomness of it is just so wrong. Same bomb dropped from different aircraft even at equal speed/altitude failed to arm. I lost count of how many bombs I saw make good hits and not go off. A failure rate so high that it is beyond belief.

Once you add in enemy fire, which we did not have, and air opposition, there is no way you will even begin to approach historical success rates in the sim.

And all because the bombs stop arming if they hit the water too soon. It's the wrong approach. It needs to be changed.

On the other hand, torpedo drops can be gotten down to an utter science, nearly 100% success rates for drops and arming. Now this will go down with enemy action of course, as it should.

Absolutely agree, as it has become so random, I guess the aim is to stop skip bombing all together?
Just wondering what other curbing of flying styles will be installed in future....

[Avimimus]

Originally Posted by ElAurens;207600
Yes we could kill ships via skip bombing on occasion, but the randomness of it is just so wrong. Same bomb dropped from different aircraft even at equal speed/altitude failed to arm. I lost count of how many bombs I saw make good hits and not go off. A failure rate so high that it is beyond belief.

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On the other hand, torpedo drops can be gotten down to an utter science, nearly 100% success rates for drops and arming. Now this will go down with enemy action of course, as it should.

It took a few tries. I found heavier bombs were more likely to skip. I even managed to skip reliably using an Il-2. I just never dumped bombs while in even a shallow dive or under 90 metres and tried to keep my speed up.

I don't think it was necessarily easy in real life. If you've ever been in the ocean - it is hard to imagine throwing a several hundred kilo high-explosive device and expecting it to bounce several times is ever going to be perfectly reliable, predictable and undemanding of skill.

As for torpedo bombing - science perhaps - but I'm having an awfully hard time meeting the release requirements (speed and altitude)!

[Avimimus]

I've actually come to like skip bombing and releasing bomblets in 4.10

My personal concern is regarding individually dropped small bombs (eg. AO-10 on the I-15, not on the Il-2). These are already hard enough to use!

It might also be nice to have early war missions in American aircraft where the delay has been shortened (I remember some stories of P-47 pilots killing themselves while attacking trains). It would be cool to have as an option in the mission file instead of in the menu screen.

[ElAurens]

Originally Posted by Avimimus

I'm having an awfully hard time meeting the release requirements (speed and altitude)!

It's quite hard to get the A-20 to even fly slow enough for a good drop. The SM 79 on the other hand is a gem.

[Avimimus]

Yes, I've been mainly testing on the Il-2T and the Ju-88. The latter has ruddy auto-retract on the flaps: I press "combat flaps" and the plane says "flap retracted" five times in a row (at which point I'm too low or too close to the the target to make the run).

[JG53Frankyboy]

Has anyone tested how this New fuze influences the german AB bombs?
Do the bomblets also Need These 2 seconds after they are released from the AB , what already takes 3 seconds.....
I cant Test it, im on vacation. Im just curious

[WTE_Galway]

oh well ... at least it stops people spawn grieving online with FAB 5000's

[I/ZG52_Gaga]

IL2 1946 - 4.10

2 second fusing delay, bomb drops.
All bomb drops are done in real time, time delay is applied
during playback for attention on details as Height, Scope,
aiming e.t.c.

www.zg52.com

ThankS! for watching

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_KLT8Fm8tdU

Your assessment.

[Skoshi Tiger]

Out of interest I found an interview with fighter pilot Richard Lee, 94th Fighter Squadron that flew P-38s from Tunisia in 43/44. In it he talks about Skip Bombing and the technique they used.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fEu0oLmjiI0

100 feet would be about 30 meters!

Cheers!