Units that you hate/love, but are forced to use?

[ckdamascus]

Sorry, I should have rephrased. Although I am a little bothered how you took my comments completely out of context.

Shoot-through as in no retaliation like dragons and gorguls. Not the shooting ability, even though it does do a lot of damage.

I usually do this to get no retaliation hits on very strong stacks. I'm pretty sure your ancient ent is going to take some losses, and yes the faun can recover this. I said the fauns are supposedly REALLY efficient at resurrecting. I said this all in the same post.

I said there might be something there, I haven't found it yet, yet suddenly I am completely wrong? You realize by proving me right or wrong, you are automatically incorrect in that assertion, since I said there might be something there, but I haven't found it yet.

That said, the debated comments are

I think of all the big units, they did end up having a VERY good damage per leadership score. Although, being a big unit, that isn't saying much since almost no level 5 can match the lower levels in terms of pure damage per leadership.

All I said was ents' do not have as much damage per leadership as lower level units, but it had one of the best for a Level 5 unit. I never said anything about using them in combinations.

Ancient Ents have about 0.10 damage per leadership on average, and no real item synergy (besides the diploma, which doesn't really raise damage) to raise this much higher.

That is easily trumped by the lower levels like super fairy power (Girl Power Build), Porc Goblin Delight (Goblins!), Black Knight Barrage, etc, but admittedly, the Goblins and Fairies need the right items to do so. 100% criticals, whip of fire, assassin dagger, the fairy set, etc.

Again, I didn't say ANYTHING about spell combinations or team synergy or survability, in which case, your are correct in that you have a good combination.

However, you still have not proven that Ancient Ents have higher damage per leadership than a lower level unit like a Demon, Fairy, Hunter, etc... I don't think they ever can, except naked. e.g. key factors being the attack rating of ents is very high relative to the lower level units, so if you can't get it to at least 60 in the ranged units, you will never achieve the maximum values of the lower level units.

Funny thing is, I didn't even say more damage, I said damage per leadership. Period. Although, I should have prefaced it with, the proper items if that wasn't obvious.